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Powder prices at the Local Gun Sore

Your absolutely correct. 7th grade Civics....supply and demand. What gets me is that people were not stocking up BEFORE the last presidential election, especially long time shooters.
I am a long time reloader and I can tell you the shortages started way before the last election. IMR 8208 has been nearly unobtanium for longer than 2 years, so has varget and a few others.
Guess who was in office when it started. ( Hint- it wasn't Brandon.)
 
At the moment we're paying anywhere from $380 to $450 for 4kgs of powder in Australia. So that works out at about $240 on the low end to up to $280 US for an equivalent size bottle of powder.
 
If they have it, powder is running about $32 to $35 / lbs. at my local gun shop in Lebanon, PA. Bought some 231-pistol powder last week and some popular rifle powders.

No - they don't accept phone or internet orders, only over the counter sales.
Good to know they’ve got some stuff and aren’t gouging. But I have a bunch of powder to use up first.
 
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Guess who was in office when it started. ( Hint- it wasn't Brandon.)
There have always been and always will be Brandon‘s and rumors of Brandon‘s. The nation is becoming quickly filled with them especially from the younger generation. What we have and what we do with what we have scares the snot out of them. Yes things started to ramp down in availability and up in price towards the last administrations term, my opinion,they were afraid of a Brandon. Again I have said in other posts of mine I’m glad I stocked up when I did. When this Brandon leaves there will sure to be another Brandon to pick up the line just like there is when somebody leaves in Al-Qaeda or those type of organizations. I guess we best get used to it and accept it as fact as sad as it is. Impossible to comprehend but there may be a day where we wish we just had this Brandon back. As far as price in my local area, Franklin Pennsylvania, the last time I looked and that was late winter early spring powder was $40-$45 a pound and 8 pound jugs were 279.99. I did not buy any.
I will add that I was fortunate enough in my last shot of competition for this year a couple of weeks ago I won an 8 pound jug of H 4350. So the price was right on that one, free. Yeah right!
 
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Your absolutely correct. 7th grade Civics....supply and demand. What gets me is that people were not stocking up BEFORE the last presidential election, especially long time shooters.
I do not disagree.

With the COVID (BS) .. many cut back on traveling/shooting for at least 18 months, then we are hit with inflation (highest in 40 years).

(IMO) this inflation will not be 'fixed/reversed' in a year ... or 2 ... or 3.

So how long are "we" willing to not go shooting to drive the prices down ?

Powder and primers (also bullets) are not the only things that are outrageously priced ...

Not to mention this is/could be a different form of gun control.
I have a British double rifle, but with out reloading components, it only useful as an very expensive club.
 
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I am a long time reloader and I can tell you the shortages started way before the last election. IMR 8208 has been nearly unobtanium for longer than 2 years, so has varget and a few others.
Guess who was in office when it started. ( Hint- it wasn't Brandon.)
I know every Presidential Election results in tight supplies. In the last 6 months before this one I started buying. Figured I have at best 5 years left to try and be competitive. I pretty much have enough of what I need. Among that was multiple jugs of Varget which is what I use the most of. I learned from experience to keep a minimum of 2 years supplies so I just had to pick it up a bit. Took a little looking but all I have is at old prices. Some of it I got by trading what I no longer use.
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Hint...it happened also at the end of Bush and worsened when Barry got into office. It's a never ending vicious cycle. I read the writing on the wall back before Barry and also this time. My issue is I went from shooting mostly lrp to srp cartridges and have shorted myself somewhat. I'm sitting with an excess of lrp and accidentally doubled a 48lb powder order which 1/2 of I have no use for, bullets also. One day I may do some horse trading.
 
I'll go waaaaay out on a limb here and make a couple of predictions.......

1- The price of all reloading components as well as factory ammo and virtually everything else we spend our money on shooting related or not, is not going down any time soon and...

2- Is likely going to continue to increase for the foreseeable future.

There's always another shortage/crisis around the corner just lurking in some dark, smoky boardroom.
 
Our local gun stores vary in pricing by a large margin. Two of them have their prices set high enough they aren’t turning over product which is a good thing. Varget and H4350 are staying in stock longer, for the vast majority of shooters an 8 pound jug will last a very long time, eventually you have enough, then more than enough. Every time one of these shortages come around we live through another cycle of can’t find components, prices going nuts and then supply catches demand and things get back to where they should be. The year before Covid hit shelves were full, prices were as low as they had been in a decade. This shortage feels a little different, I do think prices will eventually drop considerably but I’m not sure we will ever get some components for the price as we did in 2019.
 
Stopped at the LGS today and they had about 10 lbs each of Varget and H4350. But......
The H4350 was $79.99/lb and the Varget was $89.99/lb. I couldn't get out of there fast enough.
What prices are you folks seeing for high demand powders like this? I was astonished and agitated to say the least.
Just left one (of two) LGS’s here in my town and there were several 1lb containers of BOTH Varget and H1000 priced at $48.95 on the shelves. Other powders such as H110, H335, LiL’ Gun etc were considerably less…
 
You are absolutly dead wrong. I've been reloading for 50 years and I have never seen Powder Valley, Midsouth, Midway ect reverse their prices. The little gunshops yes but never seen the major players reverse their prices.
You have also not seen prices go up as fast as they have in the last couple of years either. I've been reloading since the early 80.s, so only about 40 of your 50 years. Maybe I am missing something, your experience certainly is greater than mine.
I guess time will tell, but if prices don't come down, a lot of people will stop shooting, the sport will shrink to nothing, and factories will sit idle.
In my many decades in the distribution business, I have never seen this scenario persist, but have seen it many other times in other commodities.
 
You have also not seen prices go up as fast as they have in the last couple of years either. I've been reloading since the early 80.s, so only about 40 of your 50 years. Maybe I am missing something, your experience certainly is greater than mine.
I guess time will tell, but if prices don't come down, a lot of people will stop shooting, the sport will shrink to nothing, and factories will sit idle.
In my many decades in the distribution business, I have never seen this scenario persist, but have seen it many other times in other commodities.
I shoot IBS score matches April 1st thru the end of this month. I have never seen such a low turnout of competitors as this year has produced. Lets face it it's a dying sport. I'm lucky because I bought a ton of shit years ago but I'm losing interest in competing. I'm looking to buy a Pro Street Hemi Cuda and be done with this shooting stuff.
 
I'll go waaaaay out on a limb here and make a couple of predictions.......

1- The price of all reloading components as well as factory ammo and virtually everything else we spend our money on shooting related or not, is not going down any time soon and...

2- Is likely going to continue to increase for the foreseeable future.

There's always another shortage/crisis around the corner just lurking in some dark, smoky boardroom.
I think you are absolutely correct. I've been buying, carefully, all through the supposed pandemic. There are no LGS's here anymore, just chain stores and one or two independents that sell many, many other products. If they had to rely on gun and reloading component sales to stay afloat they'd have closed their doors a long time ago.
 
I shoot IBS score matches April 1st thru the end of this month. I have never seen such a low turnout of competitors as this year has produced. Lets face it it's a dying sport. I'm lucky because I bought a ton of shit years ago but I'm losing interest in competing. I'm looking to buy a Pro Street Hemi Cuda and be done with this shooting stuff.
Benchrest has always been esoteric.
 
I shoot IBS score matches April 1st thru the end of this month. I have never seen such a low turnout of competitors as this year has produced. Lets face it it's a dying sport. I'm lucky because I bought a ton of shit years ago but I'm losing interest in competing. I'm looking to buy a Pro Street Hemi Cuda and be done with this shooting stuff.
And you think shooting is pricey......I like the idea though.
 

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