pelican cases
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I would like to see a double-rifle case that is longer and wider. It would be nice to see a version with a vertical drop-in for two rifles, similar to Cabela's safari case.
On the exterior I'd like an integral security key lock plus flush-mount METAL latches.
It would be great if Pelican also offered a separate, fitted external lightweight outer shell. Reason--when you ship common carrier, you need to have box in box to get full coverage for contents. That means finding a cardboard shipping container in which to put the Pelican.
Pelicans work great for raft trips and moving heavy gear in cars/trucks. But they really leave a lot to be desired as an airline travel case or something to be shipped UPS. Too many external flanges and exposed latches.
On the exterior I'd like an integral security key lock plus flush-mount METAL latches.
It would be great if Pelican also offered a separate, fitted external lightweight outer shell. Reason--when you ship common carrier, you need to have box in box to get full coverage for contents. That means finding a cardboard shipping container in which to put the Pelican.
Pelicans work great for raft trips and moving heavy gear in cars/trucks. But they really leave a lot to be desired as an airline travel case or something to be shipped UPS. Too many external flanges and exposed latches.
I'm currently looking for a new case and have been researching several brands. The Dosko AW doesnt seem to be a strong as the Pelican 1750 or the Storm 3300 but it is lighter at 18 lbs and is a little longer at 52". My rifle is 50" so I think the extra lenght would help. Both the Storm and Pelican are about 25 lbs. That gets real heavy with a 22 lb rifle and accessories in it. An aluminium case from ICC of about the same size runs 18 lbs. I wouldnt want something wider than 16". Takes up to much room.
Somemore color choices might be nice.
Someone needs to make a case specifically for air travel. There is a max of 63 inches and 50 lbs to avoid extra fees. Something about 41x16x6 with the weight under 18 lbs would work for me. My barreled action is 37" and I think I could fit the stock in next to it at 16" wide. Some f-class shooters are having a custom case made that fits under the 63" limit and opens on both sides. One side for the barreled action and the other for the stock and accessories.
Jeff
Somemore color choices might be nice.
Someone needs to make a case specifically for air travel. There is a max of 63 inches and 50 lbs to avoid extra fees. Something about 41x16x6 with the weight under 18 lbs would work for me. My barreled action is 37" and I think I could fit the stock in next to it at 16" wide. Some f-class shooters are having a custom case made that fits under the 63" limit and opens on both sides. One side for the barreled action and the other for the stock and accessories.
Jeff
The Plano Air Glide case where the rifle sits upright but something a little more solid would be nice and less protrusions like the weak little hinges that stick out at the back.
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PJ,
Here's the dilemma for me,and I hope I'm not the only one):
Long range rifles tend to be long,30"+ barrels, adjustable buttplate hardware) and tall,deep buttstocks, adjustable cheekpieces, big 56mm scopes). A regular 'single gun' case is rarely deep enough top to side to side to hold the gun w/ the scope mounted and keep all corners of the barrel, stock, scope, etc. far enough away from the edges of the container for my personal comfort,ideally more than 1"), so I have to go w/ what's normally considered a 'double gun' case.
Most cases advertised as 52" are just shy on internal length,more like 50-51"), requiring the shooter to remove either the adjustable buttplate hardware or the muzzle brake,if applicable). Neither is exactly difficult, but most shooters I know would rather not if they don't have to. Removing these items, and a little angling of the gun inside the expanded room of the double gun case *usually* gives enough room... usually. A little more room length-wise would be great.
The problem is that not everybody drives a truck to the matches anymore, especially w/ gas prices steadily rising. My little Camry gets pretty decent mileage, but there's only a couple ways a 52" double gun case is gonna fit in that car short of dropping the back seat.
Some folks go so far as to take the action screws loose and split the gun in two, similar to how shotgunners do w/ an over-under trap gun... much shorter and compact package, but I worry about the toll it would take on the bedding, etc. to be doing that on a regular basis.
Other than that... I think Pelican already has cases the right size for things like iron sight sets. What about stuf like spotting scopes? Most shooters have some serious coin invested in those, yet they are usually lucky if they get a cordura cover and then tossed in the trunk w/ everything else.
HTH,
Monte
Here's the dilemma for me,and I hope I'm not the only one):
Long range rifles tend to be long,30"+ barrels, adjustable buttplate hardware) and tall,deep buttstocks, adjustable cheekpieces, big 56mm scopes). A regular 'single gun' case is rarely deep enough top to side to side to hold the gun w/ the scope mounted and keep all corners of the barrel, stock, scope, etc. far enough away from the edges of the container for my personal comfort,ideally more than 1"), so I have to go w/ what's normally considered a 'double gun' case.
Most cases advertised as 52" are just shy on internal length,more like 50-51"), requiring the shooter to remove either the adjustable buttplate hardware or the muzzle brake,if applicable). Neither is exactly difficult, but most shooters I know would rather not if they don't have to. Removing these items, and a little angling of the gun inside the expanded room of the double gun case *usually* gives enough room... usually. A little more room length-wise would be great.
The problem is that not everybody drives a truck to the matches anymore, especially w/ gas prices steadily rising. My little Camry gets pretty decent mileage, but there's only a couple ways a 52" double gun case is gonna fit in that car short of dropping the back seat.
Some folks go so far as to take the action screws loose and split the gun in two, similar to how shotgunners do w/ an over-under trap gun... much shorter and compact package, but I worry about the toll it would take on the bedding, etc. to be doing that on a regular basis.
Other than that... I think Pelican already has cases the right size for things like iron sight sets. What about stuf like spotting scopes? Most shooters have some serious coin invested in those, yet they are usually lucky if they get a cordura cover and then tossed in the trunk w/ everything else.
HTH,
Monte
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Here's the Cabela's Safari two-gun case. I really like the vertical drop-in concept. You can keep two guns beside the bench with the lid open and they're still up off the ground so you don't get so much dust/sand/dirt blown in.
But, at 52" overall, it's still too short for long-range match rifles, particularly if they have the adjustable buttstocks etc.
Also, I don't like the external latches with the sliding rod. The rod is easily defeated with bolt cutters, and all those latches are bad news in airline baggage carousels.
There's a company in California,Long Beach?) that makes a similar case to the safari that is available with internal plunger locks. It can be custom ordered to size. Tom Libby had one. I just can't find the website address right now. But they are VERY expensive.
But, at 52" overall, it's still too short for long-range match rifles, particularly if they have the adjustable buttstocks etc.
Also, I don't like the external latches with the sliding rod. The rod is easily defeated with bolt cutters, and all those latches are bad news in airline baggage carousels.
There's a company in California,Long Beach?) that makes a similar case to the safari that is available with internal plunger locks. It can be custom ordered to size. Tom Libby had one. I just can't find the website address right now. But they are VERY expensive.
Like the vertical orientation too...
Moderator: is it Ziegel Engineering? They make beautiful aluminum cases. http://www.ziegeleng.com/ They make aluminum and titanium cases as well as expedition grade cases. Their website does not give pictures of all of their cases but the price list lists all of their products by description, size, material and cost.
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Yep, Ziegel Engineering--that's the outfit. I think it's their "Expedition Case" that's a dual vertical. It lists in the price sheet as 52" long, but when I talked to them a while back they indicated they could custom-build somethink longer. Keep in mind, however, since in a "toaster-style" dual vertical the rifle sits at an angle, you get a little extra length compared to a standard single-level two-gun case where the guns pretty much have to be straight if you have two in the case.
I have to say the US is the place to travel, with weight limits of 2 cases not weighing more than,correct me if I'm wrong) 50lbs each is just fantastic.
So for someone travelling from NZ, OZ or any other country apart from the US to say Germany, the UK and not going through the US your total weight limit is 20kg,44lbs) If the rifle case weighs 20lbs it doesn't leave much room for any other shooting equipment without paying a huge fee in excess baggage.
I like the size of the 1700 or the 1720 as I can fit my BR rifle in this case and also some loading gear.,I always travel with the scope unmounted and the barrel unfitted also)
Now if the case was about 1/2 the weight perhaps I could get under the 20kg weight limit.
Or another idea would be a suitcase that you can fit some of todays long stocks in like the Scoville.
I have found most International airlines are tightening up on weight limits, and even when i went to the US last year the limit was 2 pieces of baggage not weighing more than 70lb each.
Ian Owen
NZ
So for someone travelling from NZ, OZ or any other country apart from the US to say Germany, the UK and not going through the US your total weight limit is 20kg,44lbs) If the rifle case weighs 20lbs it doesn't leave much room for any other shooting equipment without paying a huge fee in excess baggage.
I like the size of the 1700 or the 1720 as I can fit my BR rifle in this case and also some loading gear.,I always travel with the scope unmounted and the barrel unfitted also)
Now if the case was about 1/2 the weight perhaps I could get under the 20kg weight limit.
Or another idea would be a suitcase that you can fit some of todays long stocks in like the Scoville.
I have found most International airlines are tightening up on weight limits, and even when i went to the US last year the limit was 2 pieces of baggage not weighing more than 70lb each.
Ian Owen
NZ
I own two Plano Air Glides, and they are just the right weight when loaded for carry to range. Rifle and scope remain upright and are further secured with velcro straps at rear over buttstock and middle behind fore end. Interior surrounded by hard foam, front block cut for 3" stock. But I would like to see one improvement - create enough interior space to hold one or two MTM boxes for ammo. Then I won't remember I left them at home when I reach the range.
How about colours,any colour) that are not military? We aren't all Delta wannabees.....
And the black doesn't count!
Kevin
And the black doesn't count!
Kevin
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