"Out Dated" .308 Win

[Oleg S]

My response would have been:

I have two choices in FTR. A .223 or .308. Which would you rather shoot at 1,000 yards?

.308

 

[wkdickinson]

My response would have been:

I have two choices in FTR. A .223 or .308. Which would you rather shoot at 1,000 yards?

308 of course!!!

 

[dsinfour]

I tell the new shooters that buying a pistol or rifle it"s like buying a car as there are many models and calibers so choose what you want and enjoy it... Later

 

[Dusty Stevens]

 

[Dusty Stevens]

 

[Kermit in Va.]

Think I just puked a little...

 

[joshb]

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[OldManMontgomery]

One of my soapbox favorites.
I no longer compete in shooting matches, not that I ever had eyes that did well at even 600 yards. My main thrust is hunting. I am also very involved in reloading and the history of arms and ammunition. As I get older, it will likely be more focused on rifles as an art medium. I really like nice metalwork, good wood that fits correctly and engraving to some degree.

No kidding, 7x57mm Mauser, some 108 years old still does what made it famous. 6.5x55mm Swede? 106 years old. .308 Win/7.62x51mm NATO is fairly new. 1954 was only sixty six years ago. Unless my math is fading.

None of them are great for 1,000 yards matches or will start a sixty-four grain bullet at just over 4000 fps, but they will do nicely. And not many deer are taken past two hundred yards.

 

[Evan]

308 was the creedmoor of its time. I imagine the hurt is similar for all the various aging pop stars when their time in the limelight is up and they're replaced by a younger model that sings all the same songs more youthfully.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I had a guy this year that wanted a new deer rifle and doesnt reload. I suggested a 30-06 or 270 or for the best selection of real good ammo from cheap to match grade get a creedmoor. He said he doesnt shoot that far, only 500yds or so, so he didnt need all that. He ended up with a 7mm rem mag

 

[Bill K]

Think I just puked a little...

I am with you, those type are sick, sick and need mental health treatment of given to ISIS to take care of.

 

[rr2030]

He ended up with a 7mm rem mag

Probably what the guy behind the counter at the gun store talked him into.

many moons ago I was at Turners Outdoorsman in the valley. Witnessed the gun expert * behind the counter sell a first time pistol purchaser a large caliber Desert Eagle, SMH.

* expert /ˈexˌspərt/
An ex is a has-been
A spert is a leak under pressure

 

[rr2030]

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We always thanked each other after for not making contact, it's a long time running BJJ joke.

 

[Mark W]

My desire was to buy a .243 with a 8 or faster twist. Impossible unless I wanted a custom built rifle. The exception was the RPR in .243. Before I could get my hands on one, Ruger discontinued that offering and later replaced it with the 6 Creedmoor with 1:7.7 twist. SO that's what I purchased, and have been shooting it and enjoying the impressive accuracy, in spite of my 66 year old Caracas behind the glass and trigger. How accurate ? I shoot a 10" plate @ 1000 yards, typically (not always) 8 of 10 are hits. It produces ragged one hole groups @ 100 yards all with factory ammunition. OH, an I am shooting off a wooden bench with a Harris bi-pod and a sock full of rice for a rear bag.

Now, back to the question: what does the 6cm do that a 243 win don’t do?

Answer: most off the shelf rifles chambered in 6 Creedmoor have a faster twist that is desirable to shoot the heavier-longer bullets.

I guess you can say the 6 Creedmoor is to the .243, what the .243 was to the .244 Remington.

Being a 243 fan already, I snagged one of those Gen 1 RPRs before they were discontinued. Me thinks that you might be singing a different tune if you had found one. With the exception of your mention of factory ammo, you could just as well be describing the performance of my 243 in your post.