Opinnons on Bull Bag or Ballistic Shooting Bag
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GSPV said:
GSPV, I appreciate your regards and while comments have engaged me concerning BB... some post are not from end users of BB (but claim its products proposed defects) forming negative opinions. But as you say... seasoned shooters, that are very much on top the game of expert shots from which I respect but not duplicated when testing my fairness.
While when chatting of what could be some benefits, when using the BB correctly... I am shunned by some for giving my opinions as they did their own!
I have been with BB from its conception and have spent many years working beside, in front and behind some of the best in the shooting business and continue to practice extreme accuracy at many levels and continue to offer my findings for others to consider those results. For others to downgrade any result, with no experience with using BB is a bit disturbing.
I have only been combated by those who's desire is to defame the tested results... I speak of. I have engaged this forum in hopes of learning and developing better recommendations for products development, understanding shooters demands and end goals moving forward.
I think you can review all my post and at no time have I shamed others and their rest of choice. But if I am in error for correcting the matter or they steered from the topic...and no one really wants the answer to the real question... than I am guilty of just that.
Please tell me what answer some one on this forum wants to hear and I can than decide if my experiance is need or should just remain silent.
I guess its a lot like someone complaining about a pair of shoes, but they never bought them or even slid them on there feet... but sure can tell you how they are going to hurt!
I appreciate your concern and I will gladly respect the final direction of this site.
This is a sales strategy I am not famelure with. It's not quite Direct Mail or E-Newsletters or How-to articles. I tried to look up Factual Force Sales tactics but didn't find anything. What is it called?
Whatever it's called, it does not seem to be very effective as not many on this thread seem to be rushing out to get the product. Just saying.
Whatever it's called, it does not seem to be very effective as not many on this thread seem to be rushing out to get the product. Just saying.
I think I can draw a reasonable conclusion from a few comments. A principle at BB is in no way qualified to answer questions regarding BB. But those who have never used them are now the experts and best qualified to support the shooter who desires Accuracy and Repeatability. I humbly disagree!
I have answered every BB question with confidence and at length. While others have answered with no end-use. That is not surprising me, that some can learn nothing, because they have already reached a elevation of top dog. That in no way bothers me! It's when people try to tell me all about my stuff... they don't know about BB and in this case.
Why would you not expect more exact content from a 'principle' at BB on a subject concerning BB. You would think they would have the best answers in these BB regards and back them up with solid engineering and science formulas and offer some good examples... as I did... and no one has proved otherwise! I enjoyed the comment that the POI changes after coming out of the BB. Is that just an opinion... or can you show me hard proof. I know otherwise and this is just a best guess for others who have no testing and think they no more than I in regards to recoil, energy and equal and opposite. Oh... and we did the testing before publishing our claims.
I can draw from others who have disqualified BB as a reasonable solution in shooting rests, that ALL shooters are on their way to NBRSA and IBS Benchrest Competition... Well unless you have some stats that prove otherwise, I could expect 95% of all gun owners (80-million registered and expected 80-million unregistered) shooters are not warming up the vehicle to get to an events. So it is possible some... not all just need a good rest and I explained what its is, that a BB can offer so they can make an 'educated decision' and decide their final use! Seems Fair!
I did not flutter the thread with 'links' and 'pictures', editorials and the such. I did not even issue a link directly to the HP-site. Just a consumers home grown YouTube and Sniper Comp results to backup a comment. WHY... because I know the subject. I live it everyday. Why many of you have real jobs... I enjoy this topic everyday that I get up and don't find my name in the obits.
You would find if you called BB... we in no way will try to sell you anything. Not a BB or a advanced shooting target. Nope, we just enjoy sharing our findings and real world experiences and share them with you at what ever your desire. Pretty simple marketing. Why do we never ask for the sale? Because the consumers, that already uses BB, sell them for us. Now you know how we go to market... Please keep this under your hats! lol
See I can still smile no matter if I am dodging bullets. Larry The Cable Guy - I don't care what you say..., Now that's funny! ;D
I been asked my principle status and I will gladly admit I am a founder. Now does that make my results more credible or Disqualify me to answer question concerning BB?
I would ask any who could find one example in this thread, where a BB-principle has degraded ANY others comments or disrespected others post or their assumption, but simply made the evaluation and or their summery to fit the topics conception! And I am inclined to respectfully respond to those who have never used a BB with debate as why their estimated findings may be incorrect or simply not true.
My phone is always open to hold respectful, creative discussions. Simply call and anyone at BB would enjoy you.
CONCLUSION:
I think it's time to give it a rest... No pun intended.
Let me thank those who have enjoyed the thread and am sorry to those who have found it off base. I appreciate the comments for owners of BB and their nice comments and thank you for waving a flag. I should also remind those who own BB... to never lend them out. We have a principle here about lending stuff in this order as follows:
Never Lend:
1) Your BB
2) Your Lawnmower
3) Your Wife or Girl Friend
IN THAT ORDER. Why? Because They Won't Come Home and no one knows what happened to them! Enjoy Your Shooters Circle. I look forward to the next topic... not related to bb.
TacAce Happy Shooting and Hit-The-Target
I have answered every BB question with confidence and at length. While others have answered with no end-use. That is not surprising me, that some can learn nothing, because they have already reached a elevation of top dog. That in no way bothers me! It's when people try to tell me all about my stuff... they don't know about BB and in this case.
Why would you not expect more exact content from a 'principle' at BB on a subject concerning BB. You would think they would have the best answers in these BB regards and back them up with solid engineering and science formulas and offer some good examples... as I did... and no one has proved otherwise! I enjoyed the comment that the POI changes after coming out of the BB. Is that just an opinion... or can you show me hard proof. I know otherwise and this is just a best guess for others who have no testing and think they no more than I in regards to recoil, energy and equal and opposite. Oh... and we did the testing before publishing our claims.
I can draw from others who have disqualified BB as a reasonable solution in shooting rests, that ALL shooters are on their way to NBRSA and IBS Benchrest Competition... Well unless you have some stats that prove otherwise, I could expect 95% of all gun owners (80-million registered and expected 80-million unregistered) shooters are not warming up the vehicle to get to an events. So it is possible some... not all just need a good rest and I explained what its is, that a BB can offer so they can make an 'educated decision' and decide their final use! Seems Fair!
I did not flutter the thread with 'links' and 'pictures', editorials and the such. I did not even issue a link directly to the HP-site. Just a consumers home grown YouTube and Sniper Comp results to backup a comment. WHY... because I know the subject. I live it everyday. Why many of you have real jobs... I enjoy this topic everyday that I get up and don't find my name in the obits.
You would find if you called BB... we in no way will try to sell you anything. Not a BB or a advanced shooting target. Nope, we just enjoy sharing our findings and real world experiences and share them with you at what ever your desire. Pretty simple marketing. Why do we never ask for the sale? Because the consumers, that already uses BB, sell them for us. Now you know how we go to market... Please keep this under your hats! lol
See I can still smile no matter if I am dodging bullets. Larry The Cable Guy - I don't care what you say..., Now that's funny! ;D
I been asked my principle status and I will gladly admit I am a founder. Now does that make my results more credible or Disqualify me to answer question concerning BB?
I would ask any who could find one example in this thread, where a BB-principle has degraded ANY others comments or disrespected others post or their assumption, but simply made the evaluation and or their summery to fit the topics conception! And I am inclined to respectfully respond to those who have never used a BB with debate as why their estimated findings may be incorrect or simply not true.
My phone is always open to hold respectful, creative discussions. Simply call and anyone at BB would enjoy you.
CONCLUSION:
I think it's time to give it a rest... No pun intended.
Let me thank those who have enjoyed the thread and am sorry to those who have found it off base. I appreciate the comments for owners of BB and their nice comments and thank you for waving a flag. I should also remind those who own BB... to never lend them out. We have a principle here about lending stuff in this order as follows:
Never Lend:
1) Your BB
2) Your Lawnmower
3) Your Wife or Girl Friend
IN THAT ORDER. Why? Because They Won't Come Home and no one knows what happened to them! Enjoy Your Shooters Circle. I look forward to the next topic... not related to bb.
TacAce Happy Shooting and Hit-The-Target
TacAce said:I think I can draw a reasonable conclusion from a few comments. A principle at BB is in no way qualified to answer questions regarding BB. But those who have never used them are now the experts and best qualified to support the shooter who desires Accuracy and Repeatability. I humbly disagree!
I have answered every BB question with confidence and at length. While others have answered with no end-use. That is not surprising me, that some can learn nothing, because they have already reached a elevation of top dog. That in no way bothers me! It's when people try to tell me all about my stuff... they don't know about BB and in this case.
Why would you not expect more exact content from a 'principle' at BB on a subject concerning BB. You would think they would have the best answers in these BB regards and back them up with solid engineering and science formulas and offer some good examples... as I did... and no one has proved otherwise! Ienjoyed the comment that the POI changes after coming out of the BB. Is that just an opinion... or can you show me hard proof. I know others wise and this is just a best guess for others who have no testing and thank they no more than I in regards to recoil, energy and equal and opposite.
I can draw from others who have disqualified BB as a reasonable solution in shooting rests, that ALL shooters are on their way to NBRSA and IBS Benchrest Competition... Well unless you have some stats that prove otherwise, I could expect 95% of all gun owners (80-million registered and expected 80-million unregistered) shooters are not warming up the vehicle to get to an events. So it is possible some... not all just need a good rest and I explained what its is, that a BB can offer so they can make an 'educated decision' and decide their final use! Seems Fair!
I did not flutter the thread with 'links' and 'pictures', editorials and the such. I did not even issue a link directly to the HP-site. Just a consumers home grown YouTube and Sniper Comp results to backup a comment. WHY... because I know the subject. I live it everyday. Why many of you have real jobs... I enjoy this topic everyday that I get up and don't find my name in the obits.
You would find if you called BB... we in no way will try to sell you anything. Not a BB or a advanced shooting target. Nope, we just enjoy sharing our findings and real world experiences and share them with you at what ever your desire. Pretty simple marketing. Why do we never ask for the sale? Because the consumers, that already uses BB, sell them for us. Now you know how we go to market... Please keep this under your hats! lol
See I can still smile no matter if I am dodging bullets. Larry The Cable Guy - I don't care what you say..., Now that's funny! ;D
I been asked my principle status and I will gladly admit I am a founder. Now does that make my results more credible or Disqualify me to answer question concerning BB?
I would ask any who could find one example in this thread, where a BB-principle has degraded ANY others comments or disrespected others post or their assumption, but simply made the evaluation and or their summery to fit the topics conception! And I am inclined to respectfully respond to those who have never used a BB with debate as why their estimated findings may be incorrect or simply not true.
My phone is always open to hold respectful, creative discussions. Simply call and anyone at BB would enjoy you.
CONCLUSION:
I think it's time to give it a rest... No pun intended.
Let me thank those who have enjoyed the thread and am sorry to those who have found it off base. I appreciate the comments for owners of BB and their nice comments and thank you for waving a flag. I should also remind those who own BB... to never lend them out. We have a principle here about lending stuff in this order as follows:
Never Lend:
1) Your BB
2) Your Lawnmower
3) Your Wife or Girl Friend
IN THAT ORDER. Why? Because They Won't Come Home and no one knows what happened to them! Enjoy Your Shooters Circle. I look forward to the next topic... not related to bb.
Nomad47 said:GSPV said:
Except most politicians use proper grammar and spelling.
Bill, thanks for the advise. As you know...most politicians don't write their own copy or prepare their speech. I look forward to using the 'tele-prompter' and say what they tell me to say in Washington. you know that this is only a trial run... Enjoy!
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