I was just at a chain sporting goods store @30miles from home waiting on our skates to get sharpend and wandered over to the hunting/fishing section to see a 700 remington being zipped into a case and the kid (maybe 20?) Was talking about how happy he would be with his new 30cal rifle. He went on to tell the fella purchasing the rifle how to properly clean his new rifle with a cleaning kit in hand how to properly clean and care for his rifle. Every one has their own way of doing things but its funny in a not at all funny way some peoples advice for others. He told rthe customer how he's a firearm "expert" and explained the best way to clean the bore. His sound advice was to save his money and not buy any kind of bore solvent but instead toput a drop of dawn dish soap on the patch and that would clean the bore better than any solvent. As he want on telling him how to brush and dry patch the bore and shouldn't need to repeat the proceedure because the soap works so well. I decided I should add my $.02 and at least suggest to try a solvent . By this time his partner classmate, coworker whatever shows up and agrees a solvent is a waste of time. I walked away saving argument since the customer said he was gonna do as the "firearms experts" suggest. I get pretty frustrated when I witness these acts. Kinda like getting auto parts from a chain store......that's a whole entirely different rant......