Offended A Friend
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After reading all these post. I really feel like a bad parent. I haven't been reloading that long 2 years. I have 500 rounds of 223 loaded up to take my 26 year old shooting Sunday and now iam just honestly scared. I clean my brass, deprime and size. Measure every round headspace, length trim if needed, debur the neck inside and out. Clean up primer pockets. Visually inspect while doing these operations. Tumble again, put the primer in with a Sinclair so I get the feel of anything that seems different. Weigh every charge, after charged in a rack of 100 visually check powder level with a flashlight. Stick in the bullet. Tumble again cause I like them clean and shiny. Remeasure headspace and length again cause iam running them thru an ar and ar's just make me Leary. Like firing out of battery Weigh the finished round looking for anything that hasn't been filled and that is under weight. I load them not even close to what my hornady book says is max.I only have 1 type of powder in the room or in the house. I did feel fairly safe shooting them nothing even close to a malfuction thru about 600 rounds.Talked with a lot of the older guys in here that most people on here seem to respect for any pointers or tips on shooting an ar-15 what to look for. I started to reload for the savings factor I get to shoot basically twice as much with my kids for the same money. Something that I consider quality time sitting at the bench. Eye protection and hearing protection. Not trying to be a smart butt. But I felt fairly safe. Now not so sure. None of you guys load up rounds to go shooting with the family?
When I go to the range with my wife, I let her shoot my reloads.
I'd never take that chance with a good friend though.
I have shot reloads that my buddies did for their rifles and vice versa. But I would never shoot someone else's reloads in my competition guns or my range guns. No way. Too much risk. Nor would I try to give reloads for someone else to shoot. It would only take one round to ruin several people's lives
I have no problem letting people shoot my reloads in my gun, or shooting precision rifle reloads of friends (who know what they are doing) in their own gun. It's ammo swapping from one platform to another that I am more concerned about.
Heck I let my kids shoot my own reloads, because I'm confident in my processes and my loads are nowhere near max.
Heck I let my kids shoot my own reloads, because I'm confident in my processes and my loads are nowhere near max.
ab_bentley
I fix stuff, sometimes....
Just as long as he doesn't load above book max.......
I have reloaded for one and only one other person, my best friend who was disabled, since passed. The load was developed using his rifle after checking it with an OAL gauge, is a midrange load and only new brass or brass fired in that particular rifle is used. The loads were if anything, more carefully done than my match loads.
Other than that one special circumstance I would never give anyone else my reloads, nor fire someone else's reloads in one of my firearms.
Other than that one special circumstance I would never give anyone else my reloads, nor fire someone else's reloads in one of my firearms.
About a year ago this subject came up. Someone said that if you reload for someone and they are injured because of your reloads, you can be sued in court for damages. If someone was blinded can you imagine how much they would sue for?
I shoot next to guys that reload all the time.
What the difference if his gun or mine blows up if I am next to him . 7 of us shoot the same chamber and all use the same powder and bullet. One drove 70 miles to a shoot and left his ammunition at home. A grind let him use some of his and he ended up winning the shoot. Your must know your friends. Larry
What the difference if his gun or mine blows up if I am next to him . 7 of us shoot the same chamber and all use the same powder and bullet. One drove 70 miles to a shoot and left his ammunition at home. A grind let him use some of his and he ended up winning the shoot. Your must know your friends. Larry
Well considering that your face is several inches, if not feet, away from his receiver, im guessing this would be a start. There's a big difference in your gun blowing up in your face compared to his gun blowing up, which would likely not effect you at all.
The last two that came apart part of the action went out the roof the barrel knocked the off the bench on the gun on the other side . His friend still got in his motor home and rode home together . Birds of a feather flock together and ride together . All that was wrong his bullet was seated too long. bullet when he taper out with rod and never removed it and shot Larry
And you're sure he didn't hand you a cartridge with an accidental double powder charge using what method of determination............. ESP?
You may want to eliminate the last tumbling operation. If I read this correctly you are tumbling loaded rounds. Two things come to mind, neither are good.
1. During the final tumble you have a primer strike.
2. When being tumbled, the powder in the cases is broken down, potentially creating dangerous pressures.
If you want clean and shiny, just wipe them with a clean soft paper towel or cloth.
I hope this helps,
Lloyd
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You should never shoot ammo that was loaded by one of your friends. You should also never drive someone else's car, or eat food that was prepared by another person. Doing any of these 3 things could potentially injure or kill you.
That said, I have done all 3, and have little doubt that I will again. Life is dangerous.
That said, I have done all 3, and have little doubt that I will again. Life is dangerous.
I bet the merry go round was frightening for some here. lol
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