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Not a Great Day for a Chamber (Pics Added)

That's really nice.

For my teslong, I just made a shim and put it in a cheap toolholder. Stays connected to a monitor I have behind the lathe... When I want to use it I just drop it on the toolpost and look up
 
That's really nice.

For my teslong, I just made a shim and put it in a cheap toolholder. Stays connected to a monitor I have behind the lathe... When I want to use it I just drop it on the toolpost and look up
This setup is a lot more bulky. I will probably rig up some kind of a v block deal for it. I dont use a bore scope when they are in the lathe anyhow.
 
That throat was cut with a ptg throater, so the finish is not quite as nice as my jgs reamers. Its really obvious when you blow it up that big. Not that its important, that finish will be gone in 10 shots. But this will come in real handy for my rimfire throat lapping experiments.
 
I wouldn't do this as a main job. I could retire if I wanted, but I really ought to work a couple more years.

Fortunately, I have my USAF retirement, a small pension form another company, and my wife's business. This is for "fun" and to support my hobbies. I also believe in what the company is doing and where it's headed.

The sophomore phase--which is where I am now, always sucks. I have achieved enough success at enough things to know this well.

When we start it's all motivation and beginner's luck. In the sophomore phase we know a lot more, have done a lot more, and see a lot more weird stuff. We think we should have it all figured out by this phase but because we are reaching higher the problems are harder.

All I can say now is "this too will pass"......
Not sure about most but learning something new every day keeps the mind sharp. My easygoing days at work are by far the day I do the least mentally. It does however leave me mentally tired.
 
I know your joking, but I was a mechanic for gm dealers for about 15 years. My income would go up 50% if I went back to that trade.

Not like that over here. General mechanics get paid FA. Diesel mechanics on heavy equipment earn good money but they guys doing service and repair work at dealerships can earn more money working in a warehouse.
 
Not like that over here. General mechanics get paid FA. Diesel mechanics on heavy equipment earn good money but they guys doing service and repair work at dealerships can earn more money working in a warehouse.
Not here. Theres such a shortage you can name your price
 
Both Bros BAT were in the shop today. I had both of them look at the big scratch. One of them said a bad spot in the barrel was as good of an explanation as any, but then showed me a tiny chip weld on the reamer. He's a very diplomatic guy.

He also showed me how to remove any chip weld. He said lots of methods work but he likes a flat diamond file the best. So I am bringing mine from home. Since I now know what to look for, every reamer will now get inspected before each use and dressed if needed.

I asked how it was possible that a new reamer, run with a flush at 80 PSI (I have been turning it up lately), with a speed of 140 RPM could get a chip weld. He said that's the machining life. He said it is a combination of the particular reamer, the particular barrel, and the particular chambering method.

We then talked through how I chamber. 140-180 RPM, in .050" and back out to ensure all chips are flushed. He said in-and-out works fine and that is how he did it before he added his flush system.

He thinks 140 RPM is too high. I pointed out that JGS says 200-300, and he disagrees. He likes to push the reamer in very slowly at 70 RPM and make one pass. He doesn't have a high pressure flush system. It barely dribbles out.

He then asked the money question. Was I stopping the lathe before withdrawing the reamer. I said no. He recommends backing off the pressure at the end of the cut and then stopping the lathe by letting it wind down.

He, like @butchlambert and others here, pointed out that withdrawing the reamer with the lathe turning creates space that can catch a chip.

Thinking through this, that could have happened. The 260 Rem is a very tapered case with a small neck. Meaning there is a lot of room for a stray chip. I don't think I have cut a chamber with a more tapered reamer. I did a bunch of .308s a couple months ago, but they have a bigger neck, and they were better quality barrels.

So I am thinking that a combination of factors caused this. Gummy barrel steel with a heavily tapered small neck case, a reamer that was perhaps a little on the too sharp side, and a sub-optimum chambering method by me. The flush may have actually worked against me in this instance by pushing a chip into the wrong spot.

Going forward immediately:

1. Reamer is inspected and dressed if needed before each use

2. Stop lathe before withdrawing reamer

3. Slow down RPM even more

Next steps:

1. Figure out how to drill and prebore
2. Modify all the reamer screws
3. Consider making longer passes
4. Build pusher and use (parts are on order)

Like I have been whining about, being at the sophomore level sucks. However, these are lessons that I need to learn. I am very thankful to have a pair of master machinists close by willing to teach me in person.

On the positive side, the chamber I cut on Tuesday is beautiful (6.5 PRC), and an experienced customer (a gun shop owner) complimented me on how nice my muzzle threads looked. I have 15 more barrels of his to thread. I apologized for being so slow. He that's okay, that it was worth the wait. He said he can find fast and sloppy everywhere.

I currently have a 338 Lapua IMP chamber to cut. Things have been so busy that all I got done yesterday was turning the tenon, and today I got it threaded. The other BAT Brother said my threads looked good.

The new lathe operating is progressing nicely and soon it won't all be on me.
 
Both Bros BAT were in the shop today. I had both of them look at the big scratch. One of them said a bad spot in the barrel was as good of an explanation as any, but then showed me a tiny chip weld on the reamer. He's a very diplomatic guy.

He also showed me how to remove any chip weld. He said lots of methods work but he likes a flat diamond file the best. So I am bringing mine from home. Since I now know what to look for, every reamer will now get inspected before each use and dressed if needed.

I asked how it was possible that a new reamer, run with a flush at 80 PSI (I have been turning it up lately), with a speed of 140 RPM could get a chip weld. He said that's the machining life. He said it is a combination of the particular reamer, the particular barrel, and the particular chambering method.

We then talked through how I chamber. 140-180 RPM, in .050" and back out to ensure all chips are flushed. He said in-and-out works fine and that is how he did it before he added his flush system.

He thinks 140 RPM is too high. I pointed out that JGS says 200-300, and he disagrees. He likes to push the reamer in very slowly at 70 RPM and make one pass. He doesn't have a high pressure flush system. It barely dribbles out.

He then asked the money question. Was I stopping the lathe before withdrawing the reamer. I said no. He recommends backing off the pressure at the end of the cut and then stopping the lathe by letting it wind down.

He, like @butchlambert and others here, pointed out that withdrawing the reamer with the lathe turning creates space that can catch a chip.

Thinking through this, that could have happened. The 260 Rem is a very tapered case with a small neck. Meaning there is a lot of room for a stray chip. I don't think I have cut a chamber with a more tapered reamer. I did a bunch of .308s a couple months ago, but they have a bigger neck, and they were better quality barrels.

So I am thinking that a combination of factors caused this. Gummy barrel steel with a heavily tapered small neck case, a reamer that was perhaps a little on the too sharp side, and a sub-optimum chambering method by me. The flush may have actually worked against me in this instance by pushing a chip into the wrong spot.

Going forward immediately:

1. Reamer is inspected and dressed if needed before each use

2. Stop lathe before withdrawing reamer

3. Slow down RPM even more

Next steps:

1. Figure out how to drill and prebore
2. Modify all the reamer screws
3. Consider making longer passes
4. Build pusher and use (parts are on order)

Like I have been whining about, being at the sophomore level sucks. However, these are lessons that I need to learn. I am very thankful to have a pair of master machinists close by willing to teach me in person.

On the positive side, the chamber I cut on Tuesday is beautiful (6.5 PRC), and an experienced customer (a gun shop owner) complimented me on how nice my muzzle threads looked. I have 15 more barrels of his to thread. I apologized for being so slow. He that's okay, that it was worth the wait. He said he can find fast and sloppy everywhere.

I currently have a 338 Lapua IMP chamber to cut. Things have been so busy that all I got done yesterday was turning the tenon, and today I got it threaded. The other BAT Brother said my threads looked good.

The new lathe operating is progressing nicely and soon it won't all be on me.
All you need is 3 modified screws. Use the same ones
 
All you need is 3 modified screws. Use the same ones

I have been cheating lately. If I take a screw meant for a smaller caliber and use it on a larger reamer (like a 6mm reamer screw on a 30 cal), it still holds the pilot but allows better flow.

My attempts at modifying the screws haven't gone well, but I do have extra screws......
 
I have been cheating lately. If I take a screw meant for a smaller caliber and use it on a larger reamer (like a 6mm reamer screw on a 30 cal), it still holds the pilot but allows better flow.

My attempts at modifying the screws haven't gone well, but I do have extra screws......

I found a box of 4-40 screws at the local hardware store that are a perfect fit. Large enough head for 30 cal. I just fit a couple of them to size on my belt grinder
 

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