NO MORE Carbon Rings--UPDATED--
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Dolomite
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C4 works if you keep the barrel constantly wet almost like soaking it. Take a brake and soak it in a container of C4 for about 30-60 minutes and the carbon wipes off.
dellet
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Soaking in heated vinegar is a highly recommended way of removing rust from stainless knives and other kitchen utensils. So not surprised it could remove bluing
The strength of the mix, temperature and time soaked is kind of controversial since vinegar is also used by knife makers to etch blades, and bring out the grain patterns in different steels and iron. So you have people using it to clean, as well as disfigure.
mp2222
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What you should use after a water based cleaner like C4 is 99.99% pure Isopropanol alcohol on a patch. I think I got it at Amazon or a lab supply company. Alcohol sucks up water (hydrophilic) . You have to use lab grade pure alcohol as the 92% stuff is 8% water. After the alcohol, run a patch or two of Kroil or other light lube.
JEFFPPC
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I have used Dawn and water to get the initial fluffy carbon out. But it needs follwed with a solvent/ abrasive. It will cut down on your solvent consumption but it is not, 'THE ANSWER'.
Shooter13
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It couldn't be, it would be to simple. I use a 30 cal brush (lightly)(clarifying, a patch over the brush) on my 6ppc with a carbon remover and it works well, do a few circular moves, check with the bore scope and do a few more until gone. OR if you are really good you could run your reamer in there
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JEFFPPC
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Only use the reamer in a hand drill after a suffient amount of coffee.It couldn't be, it would be to simple. I use a 30 cal brush (lightly) on my 6ppc with a carbon remover and it works well, do a few circular moves, check with the bore scope and do a few more until gone. OR if you are really good you could run your reamer in there
Shooter13
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Now sir, that is funny!!!
Murray Brook
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@Shooter13
I've heard of the reamer thing before. Could you please explain how you would go about doing this if you did this. TKS
I've heard of the reamer thing before. Could you please explain how you would go about doing this if you did this. TKS
Shooter13
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I haven't, I heard a gunsmith say this a year or 2 ago. I've always had success with a patch wrapped around a caliber larger brush and using carbon remover on the patch. It has always done a good job
I soak a 6.5 mop with C4 and twist it into my 6mm throat. Leave it sit for an hour and repeat. Then a nylon brush and dry patch. Seems to work.
Just picked up a bottle at Brownells a little over a month ago. They are close to me so I stopped in and that was one thing they recommended. I have been letting it soak on a mop in the throat for several hours. Then run a nylon brush through several times then insert the mop with fresh c4. It has never been left open and I am sure Brownells go through enough that it was not old stock like buying from some local gun stores.
Murray Brook
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I've used many different products including C4 to remove carbon rings. All worked to a point but to completely remove it I had to use a mild abrasive like JB, Fritz, Isso etc with a patch on a worn brass bore brush. JME
Yep. I’ve seen good results doing an overnight soak with C4 on a mop. Seen it in the borescope. 222’s, Swift and a Wasp.
Light twists with a bronze brush, Viola! Greatly reduces the foul Ring.
Clancy
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Ah. Nylon, there it is!
Go to a bronze and C4 is an amazing chemical. I’ve never seen a solvent that worked with a nylon brush if you didn’t clean after every group.
Here’s my procedure.
3-5 wets, wait 15 minutes, wet a bronze brush and do 10-20 in and outs.
3 wets. Wait 15 min.
Twist a wet, size or two larger bronze brush in the neck area of the chamber.
One wet, patch the barrel dry, one patch of lock ease, one dry patch. Dry the chamber. Done.
If a tiny tiny bit of carbon in the grooves bothers you, hit it with a patch of JB after the 10-20 brush strokes.
This method will clean every premium barrel I have ever seen in half an hour.
Edit to note an exception…. I cleaned a 22 Creedmoor that had 400 suppressed rounds through it for a friend before he sold it. That one took 2 rounds of brushing and I extended the soaks to 30 minutes.
I know you didn’t want to start a cleaning thread, and I appreciate the tip. I may use it on handgun barrels. I just don’t think removing a rifle barrel and sticking it in a sonic cleaner is going to be necessary for me. But again, cool idea and thank you.
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Get yourself some patch out/wipe out and accelerator.
Soak the bore in Patch out and let it stand for 15 min then push a patch soaked with accelerator down and grab a bronze brush. Wet the brush with accelerator and give the bore 15 or 20 strokes (ill reapply accelerator once or twice during the brushing), couple clean patches and redo, if you feel like it let the barrel soak a while with the patch out and accelerator. Some times after a lot of shooting ill let the fist "soak" of Patch out and accelerator stand in the barrel plugged over night.
There is not a cleaning product on the market that I haven't tried and nothing gets hard carbon out for me like combining the 2 products from sharp shooter and a stiff bronze brush.
Why not just make it simple and use jb paste with a couple of fresh no harm dewey brass brushes + patches + No9? I just put 150 rounds thru my bbl with no clean ( an experiment) and 100 licks or so later my bore is as shiny as new with all copper gone to boot. JB can't damage the steel because diatomaceous is the abrasive, which breaks down on use and is 'softer' than steel. You can clean off burned in carbon on a ss cookpan with a plastic scub pad and liquid. Same principle.
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