New Rimx BBL action

[shoot4fun]

Well, I'm generally not an A-hole and I won't hold it against you, but's he's made a declaration that I won't ignore this time. He's wants to play ridiculous games, ok, I'll play....

MB

As far as myself, along with many in the audience, go on the subject you should stick to being who you are. It has worked extremely well for you so far.

 

[RAVAGE88]

As far as myself, along with many in the audience, go on the subject you should stick to being who you are. It has worked extremely well for you so far.

Yessir, agreed....

MB

 

[LESLEY]

Hell im in Texas we allways overload our ass and mouth. Its a way of life. But we own it

 

[Hi-NV Shooter]

Hell im in Texas we allways overload our ass and mouth. Its a way of life. But we own it

You are in Texas? you might want to seek out Evelio McDonald as he probably can help with the barrel problems. he is well known on Steel-Chickens I believe. really good smith!

Lee

 

[linebaugh]

I've never owned a high end 22lr so I'm legitimately asking because I simply don't know, but for those of you with these high end 22's, what do you do with them? Do you pretty much just spend all your time at the 50yd line punching paper or do you use them for other things and if so, what?

FWIW, I'm not trying to create a shit storm or stir up any problems. I'm genuinely just curious what y'all do with these types of guns. If nobody responds, I'll understand or if you'd like to PM me instead of posting here, that's fine too. Like I said, I'm just curious is all.

I plan to use mine for everything from informal target, hunting, plinking, prs. In my case I have spent a lifetime wanting a very nice 22 and now seems to be the time. Lots of money but lots of joy to be had and a lifetime gun.

 

[tarzan]

buy a vudoo barrel and action built by one company if it dont shoot there is no passing the buck they fix it rather than saying it is someone other than there problem that something is not working

 

[LESLEY]

https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/new-from-zermatt-arms-rimx-actions.6978679/page-9 A benchmark or krieger on a Rimx for under 1700. Price is getting within reason

 

[flatlander]

I've never owned a high end 22lr so I'm legitimately asking because I simply don't know, but for those of you with these high end 22's, what do you do with them? Do you pretty much just spend all your time at the 50yd line punching paper or do you use them for other things and if so, what?

FWIW, I'm not trying to create a shit storm or stir up any problems. I'm genuinely just curious what y'all do with these types of guns. If nobody responds, I'll understand or if you'd like to PM me instead of posting here, that's fine too. Like I said, I'm just curious is all.

B23, I got started down this road when I saw an online ad from EuroOptics talking about a premium 22RF trainer that they were having built. It was to be built around a Stiller 2500XR action, Bartlein bbl, Manners stock, Seekins custom BM, etc. Sounded outstanding - until I got down to the price...well over $4000. Kinda choked on that...so decided to buy one of those actions & build it myself. I had a Krieger 22RF blank in sendero contour & a PTG 'Ultimate EPS' reamer, and since Jerry had actions in stock, before long I was on the project. I even found a spare Manners T4A Elite stock that had been made in excess of EO's needs, so bought it, though I had to buy a Seekins CF DBM unit & mill down the mag well to fit the Manners stock's inlet. It turned out good; I was very pleased with everything about it with the exception of trying to do fast mag changes - it's hard to hit that magazine chute on the first try, especially since it's up inside the stock out of sight. But the rifle cycled smoothly, with very reliable extraction/ejection, and it shot great. I took it down to the rifle club where I shoot high power because they were starting to run PRS-style 22RF matches, and had a great time using it in the first several of these matches that I shot. Should add - I got beat several times by guys shooting CZ455 Precision Trainers. Kinda deflated my ego, but didn't diminish the enjoyment I got out of shooting the 1st 22RF rifle I'd ever built.

Hadn't had that Stiller long enough to hardly get the bbl broken in when I read about RAVAGE88's CNC program for converting 22RF 40X singleshot actions to run his new 10rd mags, which were essentially the same size & proportion as the AICS 308 10rd mags, which would provide for very quick 'n easy mag changes while shooting under time constraints. Well, since I had a couple of CMP 40X/XB rifles that were just gathering dust in the closet, I sent the older 40X off to Jonathan Elrod to have the conversion done, and when it came back, I spun up a Benchmark 3-groove bbl for it, put it into a B&C #2015 stock with a Jewell HVR trigger & Athlon Cronus 4.5-29x56 scope, and commenced to enjoy the heck out of it. I sold the Stiller to finance converting the 40XB action, put a Krieger bbl on it, and had two really good, competitive rifles to enjoy.

IIRC, I'd just finished the 40XB build when Mike (RAVAGE88) announced the availability of V-22 actions, bbl'd actions, & complete rifles. In for a penny, in for a pound - I ordered a V-22 action, put another Krieger sendero bbl on it, bought a Manners T4A Elite stock, added another Jewell HVR & Cronus scope, then sold the 1st 40X I'd built. It goes on from there - I now own three V-22s, plus a few CZ457s - two of which I've done Shilen ratchet rifled bbls for - and still have the 40XB repeater. I had shot CF PRS-type matches for several years before getting into the 22RF version of these 'practical' style matches, but I've got to say that I enjoy shooting the 22s quite a bit more. We usually have targets as close as 25yds, and clear on out to just over 300yds. It's a hoot - I don't have to reload hi-priced CF ammo before a match, I don't need to police my fired brass, I'm not worried about bbl life, and at the end of the day, my ears aren't ringing any more than they were when I started... Plus the great fun of sharing the day with good friends whose company is priceless. Hope that answers your question as to 'what we do with these high-end 22s'...

 

[Delfuego]

if you could shoot at all points on a clock and see where the barrel shot the best and be able to lock it in place at the best spot, would you want to be able to do that? I see that possibility unlike anything else out there.

Lee

That sounds like absolutely no fun to me. If you have your own lathe and chamber you own barrels, I bet you could do it. That being said, I think a tuner would do close to the same thing for $100...

And lets remember, this is not design to be a benchrest rifle. It is magazine feed only.

 

[Hi-NV Shooter]

That sounds like absolutely no fun to me. If you have your own lathe and chamber you own barrels, I bet you could do it. That being said, I think a tuner would do close to the same thing for $100...

And lets remember, this is not design to be a benchrest rifle. It is magazine feed only.

Yes I know the action is a repeater, and excuse my ignorance on the discipline it is intended for, but are tuners allowed? also when the barrel is chambered and fitted, the locking ring setup can be done at the same time. but getting back to tuners, if you can already get the barrel indexed to shoot good, can you imagine how it will shoot when tuned properly. that is what intrigues me.

Lee

 

[HuskerP7M8]

What I see in this new rifle is the possibility of indexing the barrel, being it will more then likely be shot without a tuner. if you could shoot at all points on a clock and see where the barrel shot the best and be able to lock it in place at the best spot, would you want to be able to do that? I see that possibility unlike anything else out there.

Lee

Hi Lee,

If you're interested in indexing barrels, just have your smith machine a differentially threaded bushing. You can clock the barrel anywhere you want while the HS stays the same and the barrel only needs to be loosened, clocked to a different location, and retightened.

Been playing around with the concept for nearly 15 years and it's a simple and elegant solution if you're curious.

Landy

 

[holstil]

Ammo for sure matters, but the barrel and chamber is where it decides which ammo or lot will shoot.

as you said a turd barrel will not make it. what I see in this new rifle is the possibility of indexing the barrel, being it will more then likely be shot without a tuner. if you could shoot at all points on a clock and see where the barrel shot the best and be able to lock it in place at the best spot, would you want to be able to do that? I see that possibility unlike anything else out there.

Lee

I have a coned barrel for my cz455 that allows indexing. Not trying to imply that its better than RimX, just sayin.

I’d like to have a RimX. I want an Anschutz in the stable next though.

I get the loyalty thing. I’m not a one or the other type person if they’re good or what I’m looking for. I tend to become biased when I have problems. If customer service is good, I can over look a problem, when resolved.

 

[bob smeltzer]

Yes I know the action is a repeater, and excuse my ignorance on the discipline it is intended for, but are tuners allowed? also when the barrel is chambered and fitted, the locking ring setup can be done at the same time. but getting back to tuners, if you can already get the barrel indexed to shoot good, can you imagine how it will shoot when tuned properly. that is what intrigues me.

Lee

I know you guys wont believe this , but I have a stock 1969 Anshutz that shoots midas plus in the .150 to .180s Now that is off a rest , but it is not even bedded. I am afraid I would mess it up.2s and 3s with lesser ammo.and no bull!

 

[Hi-NV Shooter]

Hi Lee,

If you're interested in indexing barrels, just have your smith machine a differentially threaded bushing. You can clock the barrel anywhere you want while the HS stays the same and the barrel only needs to be loosened, clocked to a different location, and retightened.

Been playing around with the concept for nearly 15 years and it's a simple and elegant solution if you're curious.

Landy

Hi Landy, Glad you posted to this thread. yes I know you did indexing and I believe it was with Mike Ross?
and the idea was with you in mind as I remember you had posted about this before on other forums.
what I like about the bolt head on this rifle is that you can run a none cone breech to do indexing.
more material around the shell casing is better for a more stable chamber?
what is your thoughts on that, any merit?

Lee

 

[HuskerP7M8]

Lee,

Yes, Mike Ross, Jeff Madison, and I spent considerable time investigating the potential benefits from indexing barrels. The majority of our testing showed a slight improvement in precision when the bore curves were clocked to 6 or 12, but it wasn't statistically significant. I often wrestle with myself as to whether it's another one of those crumbs worth pursuing or if it's better to concentrate on those variables that are already proven to enhance performance.

As regards coned chambers being less stable than traditional, I'm not sure I can answer that. Maybe "Hoop Stress" calculations in conjunction with an FEA would provide some clarity, but considering the relatively low pressures we deal with in RF, I don't personally feel coned chambers would be less stable and there are a lot of great shooting rifles that utilize them for one reason or another and not just for indexing. That being said, some cones are designed poorly and do cause problems.

If you do decided to investigate indexing farther, I have one suggestion. Based on the assumption that 6 or 12 is the ideal clock position, design your testing around using only 2 positions such as 12 and 3, 12 and 9, 6 and 3, etc. It'll save you hundreds if not thousands of rds in any attempt at finding something close to statistical significance vs trying to shoot all the way around the clock.

Landy

 

[flatlander]

I had Mike Ross chamber & fit a Broughton in the same contour as the Japanese M52 sporter reproductions on a Win 52D action several years ago. I asked that he do the indexing testing, even though that might've been a waste of his time & my money, considering that it's a sporter contour bbl. However, that rifle shot extremely well when I first tested it, with - of all things - Win Super-X hi-vel copper washed HP ammo. I've never really put the time & effort into testing it with the newer lots of SK & Lapua std vel match ammo that I shoot in my repeaters today. I owe it to myself and in memory of Mike's indexing work to get that single shot sporter out and do some serious shooting with it again. This was a really beat-up CMP 52D that Doan Trevor had stocked with a nice English walnut blank. The trigger was sent to Carl Kenyon for his modifications, and I wound up drilling & tapping the bbl shank for a cantilevered EGW scope mount after Doan deferred from trying to drill & tap the action.

 

[HuskerP7M8]

flatlander, that's a gorgeous rifle!

Mike didn't really do any RFBR rifles, but I remember attending an ARA match in Lincoln many years ago where I believe Mike had an acquaintance who showed up with maybe a prone stocked rifle with a pencil thin barrel and a mini bi-pod attached to it. It was a real oddity and without a doubt the smallest diameter barrel I've ever seen at a BR match other than a shooter from Houston who was shooting next to me in Waco, TX a couple of years ago with I believe a factory CZ American.

It's been way too long ago to remember the details, but I remember visiting with Mike about it and he confirmed he'd barreled it and/or built it. I seem to remember being surprised it shot as well as it did and I was impressed.

I see you're a neighbor from Kansas and I can't help but be curious if it was possibly you. Probably not, but like I said....curious.

Landy

 

[Dryfly24]

I just seen where the new Rimx barrel actions will cost 2200 from Orkan. Question is are they better than a Vudoo at 1600. If you get one please let us know.

Personally, I’d buy the proven Voodoo all day long. But that’s just me. YMMV...

 

[Dryfly24]

The RimX actionis from Zermatt (formerly Bighorn Arms). They make great stuff and are good people. https://www.rimxaction.com/

You can have anybody barrel it. Zermatt will provide the action spec. Pic a barrel, pic a smith and have fun. There are a lot of good rimfire smiths out there. One advantage of the RimX is it's easier to chamber than a traditional 22. Those Keystone barrels might shoot, but don't complain when they don't. I would save money in different places.

If you need Gunsmith recommendations, I'm sure lot of guys could chime in. I can give you a few too. I personally wouldn't buy a #2 pencil from Orkan.

Del,

PM sent. Thanks...

DF24

 

[USMCDOC]

I had Mike Ross chamber & fit a Broughton in the same contour as the Japanese M52 sporter reproductions on a Win 52D action several years ago. I asked that he do the indexing testing, even though that might've been a waste of his time & my money, considering that it's a sporter contour bbl. However, that rifle shot extremely well when I first tested it, with - of all things - Win Super-X hi-vel copper washed HP ammo. I've never really put the time & effort into testing it with the newer lots of SK & Lapua std vel match ammo that I shoot in my repeaters today. I owe it to myself and in memory of Mike's indexing work to get that single shot sporter out and do some serious shooting with it again. This was a really beat-up CMP 52D that Doan Trevor had stocked with a nice English walnut blank. The trigger was sent to Carl Kenyon for his modifications, and I wound up drilling & tapping the bbl shank for a cantilevered EGW scope mount after Doan deferred from trying to drill & tap the action. View attachment 1174073

that's a pretty piece of wood..