New rifle misfires

[Cold Bore]

After I cleaned the rifle and put a round in I would have a misfire. The chamber was wet with some of the chemical residue left from cleaning. I used a bore guide, but the brass was wet when I was taking it out of the chamber. After each misfire, I would chamber another round and it would work fine.

Did you dry the chamber in between those shots? You stated that you didn't have anything to dry it with, so I'm guessing no.

I then shot a few 3 shot groups at the end and there was no misfire issues.

I tried firing the misfires again and they still would not go off either.

Sounds like the misfires were specific to those particular rounds (and no, I don't think cleaning solutions would kill a primer that quickly).

My smith has a tool to take the bolt apart, so I will not be able to do anything until he takes a look inside.

You don't have a workbench edge and a penny?

In the military, we stripped them with nothing more than our bootlace and a dog tag. Took all of a few seconds.

Not rocket science.

The burr inside the bolt or whatever it's obstructing the firing pin was very difficult to see and could have been easily missed. That burr is not the gunsmiths fault.

I would beg to differ.

If he "trued" the action, he should've been smart enough to check everything.

Which leads me to.....

IMHO, a REAL Gunsmith would have checked EVERYTHING on a build. It sounds like the work done was by someone who puts parts together.

Bingo.

 

[MGYSGT]

Perhaps the liquid in the chamber acted like a buffer and allowed the cartridge to move when struck by the firing pin. Just saying. You stated it only happened on a "wet" cartridge.

 

[Patton243]

After taking my gun to a 2nd gunsmith for another opinion, we finally got the issue corrected. I've taken the gun out to the range twice since he fixed the problem, and there's been no misfires. The problem was the firing pin spring. When the smith took the spring out and compared it to another good R700 spring, it was almost 2 coils shorter than a normal one. Nice job Remington on your piss poor quality once again. This was a brand new action may I add too. Originally it looked like the primers were being hit with good force, but I failed to mention I tried shooting them twice which made it look like a good primer strike.

With that being said, I'm happy with my new guns performance after this issue. It has a Bartlein barrel on and it's very good. I still believe Remington has poor quality and this issue only reinforces my opinion after all the other bad experiences I've had with them recently.

 

[Cold Bore]

The burr inside the bolt or whatever it's obstructing the firing pin was very difficult to see and could have been easily missed. That burr is not the gunsmiths fault. That's Remington's fault for letting it leave the factory in that condition.

After taking my gun to a 2nd gunsmith for another opinion, we finally got the issue corrected. The problem was the firing pin spring. When the smith took the spring out and compared it to another good R700 spring, it was almost 2 coils shorter than a normal one.

So, you had a "gunsmith" do a "complete job" on your rifle, to include taking the bolt apart again, and noticing a "very difficult to see burr", yet he missed something as obvious as a two-coil-short spring?

Nice job Remington on your piss poor quality once again.

I still believe Remington has poor quality and this issue only reinforces my opinion after all the other bad experiences I've had with them recently.

And I still believe that you'll continue to buy them, and then go on to bash them again.

 

[Patton243]

So, you had a "gunsmith" do a "complete job" on your rifle, to include taking the bolt apart again, and noticing a "very difficult to see burr", yet he missed something as obvious as a two-coil-short spring?



And I still believe that you'll continue to buy them, and then go on to bash them again.

Cool story bro. Actually I'm done buying rifles for a while, so nobody will be getting my business in that regard. I have all the right to bash them because their quality sucks and I'm not the only one with that opinion either. If you can't put a $5 spring in a rifle correctly maybe you shouldn't be working for that company. Maybe you should go work for them. It's not hard to improve on garbage

 

[Lougler]

I had a new Remington 700 put together and got it officially yesterday by my smith. When I took it out to the range I did the typical break in procedure for the first 10 shots. I shot and cleaned the rifle after each shot. After I cleaned the rifle and put a round in I would have a misfire. The chamber was wet with some of the chemical residue left from cleaning. I used a bore guide, but the brass was wet when I was taking it out of the chamber. After each misfire, I would chamber another round and it would work fine. The first initial break-in shot went off fine. Were these misfires a mechanical issue or possibly the cleaner being in the chamber and contaminating the primer? I was using bore tech eliminator. I then shot a few 3 shot groups at the end and there was no misfire issues. Mind you I did not clean the rifle between the 3 shot session. I will not get to see my smith until later on this evening, so I figured I would say something here first. I checked the primer seating depth and they were under the rim and not bulged out. I'm using an RCBS universal hand priming tool and never had an issue before. I tried firing the misfires again and they still would not go off either. Any suggestions on the issue? Firing pin filled with gunk? It's a Remington 700 action as I stated before and I never had an issue with misfires on any of my center fires. Unfortunately I'm at work so I cannot post the pictures of the primers. Thanks,

Chris

New member here but I thought I would share a similar experience. Recently had a custom 700 built which included a Timney Trigger. Had intermittent misfires from the start. Contacted Timney CS and they determined that I needed a longer sear to allow the firing pin to get necessary momentum. Problem solved. If your new toy has a Timney it could be worth checking out just to give yourself peace of mind.

 

[ND shooter]

Cool story bro. Actually I'm done buying rifles for a while, so nobody will be getting my business in that regard. I have all the right to bash them because their quality sucks and I'm not the only one with that opinion either. If you can't put a $5 spring in a rifle correctly maybe you shouldn't be working for that company. Maybe you should go work for them. It's not hard to improve on garbage

Hmmmm wow

 

[ebb]

Is it possible to know if the original smith or Remington was the one who put the defective spring in?

 

[BoydAllen]

One little suggestion....after cleaning, dry your chamber. I use a chamber rod with an old bore brush, wrapped with a strip of paper towel. I wrap the towel so that it is smaller at the front and extends in front of the brush.For the body part of the chamber, I fold the paper over on itself, doubling its thickness so that the wrap will be bigger than that part of the chamber. I push the wrapped brush as far as it will go in the chamber, and keep pushing forward as I rotate the rod. I do this twice, turning the paper over for the second time. IMO there is no reason to shoot a wet chamber.

 

[Patton243]

Is it possible to know if the original smith or Remington was the one who put the defective spring in?

Remington factory. Smith didn't touch the spring.

 

[Patton243]

One little suggestion....after cleaning, dry your chamber. I use a chamber rod with an old bore brush, wrapped with a strip of paper towel. I wrap the towel so that it is smaller at the front and extends in front of the brush.For the body part of the chamber, I fold the paper over on itself, doubling its thickness so that the wrap will be bigger than that part of the chamber. I push the wrapped brush as far as it will go in the chamber, and keep pushing forward as I rotate the rod. I do this twice, turning the paper over for the second time. IMO there is no reason to shoot a wet chamber.

Yeah, you're right. I actually have a tool to dry out and clean the chamber that I bought from Sinclair a few years ago. I just forgot to bring it to the range that day. In most cases I clean my rifle at home. For the break-in process you can't do that obviously.

 

[CJ6]

For the break-in process you can't do that obviously.

When I break in a new barrel I clean at the range as part of the process.

 

[clowdis]

I have replaced springs that were as much as 1/4 inch shorter than the new one and they still functioned just fine. I question that a spring that is 2 coils shorter would cause the action to not fire.