New rifle misfires

[Hummer]

What can we do with the info provided, I tried to guide him to possibles with all I can think of . Any suggestions? Taking it to the smith is the most obvious, but if the smith isn't compentent what next . It sometimes helps to ask the smith or tell the smith all the info , primers , not firing when tried again , dies , fired cases , etc .
I don't think any internet smithing , ok most , really gives answered , just suggestions that should be investigated.

My guess at this point may be covered in the thread below

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/th...ange-all-the-questions.3897469/#post-36731104

 

[Ggmac]

Op sent you a Private Message .
Gary

 

[Patton243]

I'm not on here looking for a solution to the problem. I'm just trying to get an idea on what could be the problem when I take it to the gunsmith this evening after work. I figured maybe someone had a similar issue. I texted him earlier about the issue and he will look at it later on. If there's still a problem after the fact I'll take it to another more experienced smith. He seems to be a one trick pony when it comes to re barreling rifles. At any event, I'll update my findings after he does a diagnosis of the rifle. Hopefully it's something stupid like the bolt is filled with gunk or something.

 

[savagedasher]

Simple basic test Pull the bullet from one that didn't fire and empty the powder . Take masking tape and put a layer at a time On the case face of the one that did fire and close the bolt one mite close but two shouldn't .
Now do the same to the case that didn't fire Keep adding till the bolt is had to close . If you carefull you can remove the tape and meisure the thickness that is your head space on that brass I like blue painters tape
The same processes works great when setting the shoulder back. Larry

 

[Ggmac]

Let the smith check it with gauges ,take the unfired round and a fired round with you .
Oh ,what's a trick pony gunsmith ?

 

[hogpatrol]

Let the smith check it with gauges ,take the unfired round and a fired round with you .
Oh ,what's a trick pony gunsmith ?

Let the smith check it with gauges ,take the unfired round and a fired round with you .
Oh ,what's a trick pony gunsmith ?

Six months ago, I couldn't spell gunsmythe then I bought a lathe and now I are one.

One trick pony is a "specialist". Can design a nuclear weapon but can't make toast, mow grass or figure out which end of the hammer to use. The U.S. is full of them.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

With your die hitting the shellholder my guess is youre bumping your brass way back too far

 

[Iowa Fox]

We need two measurements.

Fired case head to datum
resized loaded case head to datum

 

[Patton243]

The head space isn't the issue. The smith took a look at it last night. There's an obstruction in the bolt and he's trying to remove it today. It could be hitting the firing pin. Typical Remington quality. I'll keep you updated.

 

['Freak]

@ #11, “it's a standard Remington 700 action no modifications done other than truing.”

Can’t dump it off on Remington if your ‘smith has been inside doing any “truing”.

 

[Patton243]

@ #11, “it's a standard Remington 700 action no modifications done other than truing.”

Can’t dump it off on Remington if your ‘smith has been inside doing any “truing”.

Actually you can. Remington's quality is garbage these days and that's why I only bought the action itself. The trigger is garbage, the actions are not as smooth as they used to be, and not to mention the awful stocks and poor chamber work I've seen coming straight from their factory. My gunsmith had an R700 come in with the wrong barrel twist recently on a 300 Blackout. This isn't the same Remington 10 years ago.

 

[LHSmith]

Actually you can. Remington's quality is garbage these days and that's why I only bought the action itself. The trigger is garbage, the actions are not as smooth as they used to be, and not to mention the awful stocks and poor chamber work I've seen coming straight from their factory. My gunsmith had an R700 come in with the wrong barrel twist recently on a 300 Blackout. This isn't the same Remington 10 years ago.

IMHO, a REAL Gunsmith would have checked EVERYTHING on a build. It sounds like the work done was by someone who puts parts together.
I suggest the following: 1/ forget that shoot 1 & clean x 10 B/S 2/ get a boreguide that fits 3/ trade it ASAP as you will never gain trust in that rifle as you have convinced yourself that new Remingtons are junk.

 

[Patton243]

IMHO, a REAL Gunsmith would have checked EVERYTHING on a build. It sounds like the work done was by someone who puts parts together.
I suggest the following: 1/ forget that shoot 1 & clean x 10 B/S 2/ get a boreguide that fits 3/ trade it ASAP as you will never gain trust in that rifle as you have convinced yourself that new Remingtons are junk.

Aside from the action these days Remington's are garbage and that's my opinion. I wont be selling it, sorry. Every factory Remington I purchased since 2011 had some type of problem. From the hinged floor plates, internal magazines, poor chamber work, all the triggers are bad, and not to mention one of their extractors failed pretty fast too. The burr inside the bolt or whatever it's obstructing the firing pin was very difficult to see and could have been easily missed. That burr is not the gunsmiths fault. That's Remington's fault for letting it leave the factory in that condition. Furthermore, the issue could still be the primers too. I have 2 factory Savage rifles and had 0 problems with any of them. Can't say the same thing for Remington. So thank you again for your "great advice." Have a nice day.

 

[CJ6]

He seems to be a one trick pony when it comes to re barreling rifles.

Actually you can. Remington's quality is garbage these days and that's why I only bought the action itself. The trigger is garbage, the actions are not as smooth as they used to be, and not to mention the awful stocks and poor chamber work I've seen coming straight from their factory. My gunsmith had an R700 come in with the wrong barrel twist recently on a 300 Blackout. This isn't the same Remington 10 years ago.

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1) IF you thought Remington was garbage then why did you purchase the action in the first place ?. 2) If you thought the "Smith" was a one trick pony on barreling jobs ,why did you take it to him ? .

 

[Patton243]

1) IF you thought Remington was garbage then why did you purchase the action in the first place ?. 2) If you thought the "Smith" was a one trick pony on barreling jobs ,why did you take it to him ? .

This is the 3rd comment now in a row that has no relevance to the actual problem itself. I need say nothing further.

 

[Taildrag15X]

Okay I asked about the headspace....never saw where you checked it.....

As far as having something "blocking" the firing pin....no tools required to strip that bolt but a boot lace and a penny (or dime).....

I would love to see some pictures of these cases with measuring tools around, with actual numbers.....

My money is still on under sized cases.....I would hope it's not the chamber.

 

[Patton243]

Okay I asked about the headspace....never saw where you checked it.....

As far as having something "blocking" the firing pin....no tools required to strip that bolt but a boot lace and a penny (or dime).....

I would love to see some pictures of these cases with measuring tools around, with actual numbers.....

My money is still on under sized cases.....I would hope it's not the chamber.

My gunsmith looked at all the cases fired, misfired, and ones that were not used yet and he saw no problems with the reloads. Most likely the problem is the primers or something with the bolt mechanism if the burr in the bolt isn't the issue. I'll keep you updated. I'm actually going over his shop this morning. He has the rifle now. If he doesn't find a solution to the problem and it acts up more this weekend then I'll take it to another smith if necessary next week.

 

[Ggmac]

It could be just bad primers . Especially if it didn't ignite on a second hit .
Good luck , it'll be a reliable rifle , put a few hundred rounds through it .

 

['Freak]

If ‘smith is not measuring so unable to evaluate differences in the case head to shoulder datum dimension then no wonder he hasn’t seen a thang.

 

[LHSmith]

Aside from the action these days Remington's are garbage and that's my opinion. I wont be selling it, sorry. Every factory Remington I purchased since 2011 had some type of problem. From the hinged floor plates, internal magazines, poor chamber work, all the triggers are bad, and not to mention one of their extractors failed pretty fast too. The burr inside the bolt or whatever it's obstructing the firing pin was very difficult to see and could have been easily missed. That burr is not the gunsmiths fault. That's Remington's fault for letting it leave the factory in that condition. Furthermore, the issue could still be the primers too. I have 2 factory Savage rifles and had 0 problems with any of them. Can't say the same thing for Remington. So thank you again for your "great advice." Have a nice day.

Whenever my Smith(s) hand a finished gun over to me, they have me check if the trigger is to my liking. Each and every one of they go out of their way to point out how they minimized bolt jump with factory parts....if the FP ass'y had issues they would advise me aftermarket parts were in order because they know accuracy is my #1 goal. They are thorough with the scope of their work because they want repeat business and callbacks after it is handed over affect their reputation. By the way, it is considered mandatory, for the Smith to test fire himself after completion....my guy's range test and proudly show me the targets.