New LC brass uniform primer pocket or not?
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Just me, but I like preppin the brass.
When you think of doing 1000 it's a daunting task, break it down and used as 100 or 200 case groups you have a lot of shooting to do too wearout or loose that brass.
I do both uniforming and inside primer hole deburring, on all my brass.
If you want to load for the best you can get, do the prep work.
When you think of doing 1000 it's a daunting task, break it down and used as 100 or 200 case groups you have a lot of shooting to do too wearout or loose that brass.
I do both uniforming and inside primer hole deburring, on all my brass.
If you want to load for the best you can get, do the prep work.
Scott, if you are just starting to shoot SR (or MR, for that matter), I'd say forget wasting time playing with the brass and spend the time practicing your positions, shooting live fire and dry fire. The limiting factor at the short lines is the shooter, not the load. Weighing brass or playing with primer pockets won't make that 7 during offhand into a 8. If you really have a need to prep brass, then do it for the 600 yd loads, if you are using a different load for 600 then your 200/300 loads. For a new SR shooter, many would advice shooting a 75/77 load all the way through, to keep it simple, and focus on shootng instead. Or to put it this way, the AMU SR shooters shoot issued ammo loaded by Altanta Arms for the short lines, and it doesn't hold them back from shooting clean strings with high X counts.sbrabec said:
sbrabec
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I guess I'm still on the fence about this. I just uniformed 500 for my sons bolt gun and although it doesn't take all that long... (I need to get him to do them??....) it really sucks. I guess the one good thing is you do them once and they are done. Now I really shouldn't ask this one.... does it pay to neck turn to clean up the high spots?
Thanks
Scott
Thanks
Scott
At the risk of sounding like a Smart A##, I'm curious. Just how much does a uniform primer pocket raise one's score during a match? I'm all for consistancy when it comes to reloading. Every case I load goes through a very controlled loading process. I make sure all my bullets are loaded as close to the same as each other as possible. But I'm just not sold on the primer pocket thing. Help me, Help me.......
A complete and total waste of time for a Service Rifle. The pockets will work just fine as is, and you'd be far, far better off spending that time dry firing, working on position, etc.. I'm willing to bet you that if you've got a properly built AR with a decent barrel on it, any properly assembled load with virtually no case prep will still shoot MOA or better. You don't mention what classification you hold right now, but until you've got a High Master card with your name on it, Bench Rest case prep procedures are absolutely pointless.
Position, sight alignement, good focus on the front sight post and proper trigger control will help. Primer pockets won't make a bit of difference.
Position, sight alignement, good focus on the front sight post and proper trigger control will help. Primer pockets won't make a bit of difference.
sbrabec
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Thanks Kevin,
I think that was the anwser I was looking for. I'm brand new to the service rifle so at this point I'll find a load that works well with the gun and stick to the range and the basics. Now to get off topic abit... How much load devolpment should one do for the AR? I ladder test w/ my Savage 6br, is this a waste of time for the service rifle?
Thanks
Scott
I think that was the anwser I was looking for. I'm brand new to the service rifle so at this point I'll find a load that works well with the gun and stick to the range and the basics. Now to get off topic abit... How much load devolpment should one do for the AR? I ladder test w/ my Savage 6br, is this a waste of time for the service rifle?
Thanks
Scott
Load development!? What's that!? No, seriously, you'll find that about 99% of Service rifle shooters are using either RL-15 or Varget with both 77s and 80s. For many years now, I've used the same load, 24.0 grains of Varget under both my 77s for 200-300, and 80s for the 600, the only difference being seating depth. Back when the M14s ruled the roost, there was no such thing as load development, either. You stuck a 168 on top of 41.0-41.5 grains of 4895 and went to the range. If the load didn't shoot, you had a problem wiith the gun. We're getting to that same point with the ARs these days. What works is pretty well known and has become the defacto standard for this game. The decision between RL-15 and Varget is about even, and frankly they'll both work just great. Availability and price might be the way to decide, since beyond that one's as good as the other.
Don't buy into the full BenchRest prep routine, either, as it simply isn't needed in this game. Some of it is actually counterproductive, some of it even dangerous. Also never forget that loading for an autoloader is different than reloading for a bolt gun, and shouldn't be handled in the same manner. It's different, and that fact needs to be accepted from square one. Load decent quality ammo that's A) safe, and B) reliable and take it from there. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Always glad to help!
Don't buy into the full BenchRest prep routine, either, as it simply isn't needed in this game. Some of it is actually counterproductive, some of it even dangerous. Also never forget that loading for an autoloader is different than reloading for a bolt gun, and shouldn't be handled in the same manner. It's different, and that fact needs to be accepted from square one. Load decent quality ammo that's A) safe, and B) reliable and take it from there. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Always glad to help!
LC brass should have the primer pockets uniformed, flash holes reamed and then deburred.
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