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New lathe due diligence.

I think you're right about the price of heavy 10's. I'm combing through all Craigslist in about an eight hour or less drive from here and not finding much. I was looking at a 13" South Bend but it seems high also. The clearing looks rough but that could just be dirt and dried lubricant with chipped paint.
 
Before you castigate the imported lathes, just remember that most of the "good old American iron" is OLD. Many of these machines haven't been made in decades. A lot of them are worn out particularly the ones made without hardened ways. Parts are unobtanium.

The new Asian lathes are generally easier to work with and do better and more accurate work than most of these older machines. Most modern machine shops don't buy these older machines because of this.
 
Does anyone here own and use either a Clausing 5914 or 6319 lathe that can comment on how it performs and how short you can chamber through the headstock ?
 
I have a 6913 Clausing with the 14X48. 22" barrels are not a problem, but it takes a little work to be able to get there. I made a cathead that was as close on the chuck side as possible. On the left hand side I had to drill and tap the cast iron hub on the spindle to do it. I have done shorter barrels by screwing an adapter on the chamber end to allow the barrel to sit further into the spindle, but you need a long indicating rod.
 
I really like mine. A friend that just passed away has a different model Clausing, but with the same hydraulic variable speed. He machined a sleeve for his little cylinder and put new rubber cups in it. It is about the same as rebuilding wheel cylinders on a car. 2 things I really like, variable speed and the clutch-brake handle. I wouldn't dare consider converting one, too nice as they are.
My Monarch 10EE is the cats meow, but the long headstock and 20" between centers makes it impractical to chamber barrels.
 
Sorry about the loss of your friend. Thanks , I keep reading a lot of good things and they seem to be close to my budget. What's happening the the one that your friend had ?
 
I would just buy this http://precisionmatthews.com/PM1330-1340Lathe.html

Then spend all the money you have left over on more & more tooling.

Its not really the lathe that makes a great barrel, its the nut behind the wheels turning them and knowing how to setup up the operation correctly. I think you are over looking the import lathes. More smiths use them than you think. What i like about the import lathes in the 12x36 to 13x40 range is the shorter head stocks. Are you going to get dead nuts .0001" accuracy hell no but that's all about your setup and what tooling your using.
 
I don't think I'm getting a new PM for under $2000 and the Nardini from the used dealer is probably not happening under $2000 either. I'm hoping to go see a Sheldon and a Rockwell this weekend.
 
I own a WM-56P Sheldon lathe. It is tool room quality lathe a 1973 model. Has the variable speed drive 3 phase, if you get the Sheldon, I have the guys number that was design engineer for 30 years. A wealth of info for anything you need to know about a Sheldon lathe, including where to get parts.
 
I don't think I'm getting a new PM for under $2000 and the Nardini from the used dealer is probably not happening under $2000 either. I'm hoping to go see a Sheldon and a Rockwell this weekend.
the Sheldon lathe's are nice pieces of equipment. Let us know how it turns out.
 
I'm picking it up Sunday and I'll be sure to take a few pictures. It's in a basement so it could get interesting.
 

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