New Lapua 144gn 6.5mm MaxRange Target OTM Bullet GB582

[Shutstr8r]

If I’m not mistaken, this spec is same as Berger 144 Long Range Hybrid Target. So maybe it is technically already available. Nammo Group/Capstone owns both companies. The Bergers shoot just fine out of my 8 twist 260 AI and both my 8 twist and 7.5 twist 6.5 Creedmoors.
—Darrell

 

[Gil P.]

If I’m not mistaken, this spec is same as Berger 144 Long Range Hybrid Target. So maybe it is technically already available. Capstone owns both companies. The Bergers shoot just fine out of my 8 twist 260 AI and both my 8 twist and 7.5 twist 6.5 Creedmoors.
—Darrell

It makes me wonder why Lapua bothered making it... I guess we'll see when it comes out. I've shot some great groups with 123 and 139 scenars.

 

[Steve Donlon]

maybe they are changing the nose a little to make them more like a Sierra 142 gr. so that they will do better at very long ranges. Heard guys complain about going subsonic with the Berger's. I don't think Lapua would make them exactly the same.

 

[6.5 forever]

maybe they are changing the nose a little to make them more like a Sierra 142 gr. so that they will do better a very long ranges. Heard guys complain about going subsonic with the Berger's. I don't think Lapua would make them exactly the same.

Interesting comment. I quit the Berger 144 because they couldn't shoot with the 142 Sierra at a mile.

 

[Steve Donlon]

Interesting comment. I quit the Berger 144 because they couldn't shoot with the 142 Sierra at a mile.

I hope Lapua listens.

 

[ernest]

I tested a very small batch of Lapua 144 max long range. The 2 bullets, the 144 berger LRHT and the Lapua 144 are not identical. The CB is close in theory. But in the range it’s not the same... With the same load, I had 20m/s more with the lapua. The groups were also better during the tests at 200m. But not enough bullets to properly test up to 1300m. The lack of information, such as Lapua’s drag equations or AB’s custom curves made me prefer the shepherd for now during my last match (Lord of Steel, 1345 yards max)

 

[Gil P.]

I tested a very small batch of Lapua 144 max long range. The 2 bullets, the 144 berger LRHT and the Lapua 144 are not identical. The CB is close in theory. But in the range it’s not the same... With the same load, I had 20m/s more with the lapua. The groups were also better during the tests at 200m. But not enough bullets to properly test up to 1300m. The lack of information, such as Lapua’s drag equations or AB’s custom curves made me prefer the shepherd for now during my last match (Lord of Steel, 1345 yards max)

What is your barrel twis rate?

 

[tcob68]

Just seen Midway has them in stock, but only in 1000ct at $578.57.

 

[Steve Donlon]

Thanks tcob68 The Lapua is on the left and the Berger s on the right from Midway

 

[Willow]

I'll be watching this with interest to see if Lapua add 7mm and 6mm variants to this new line of bullets. I just tested the 7mm 180gr Scenar L with great results, although I'm sure Lapua could improve the BC from that old design. They do make a very consistent bullet so hopefully that translates into the MaxRange Target.

 

[Tangent]

I'll be watching this with interest to see if Lapua add 7mm and 6mm variants to this new line of bullets. I just tested the 7mm 180gr Scenar L with great results, although I'm sure Lapua could improve the BC from that old design. They do make a very consistent bullet so hopefully that translates into the MaxRange Target.

I was thinking just the same. It seems many of their designs are quite long in the tooth now. It would be nice to see some newer, more efficient ones. A 6mm to compete with the 105gr Berger would be great.

 

[Ironworker]

But who has them?

 

[Steve Donlon]

I just ordered a box of 100 Lapua 6.5 144gr. bullets from Midway for $64.99. I'll get back with my results asap. Lapua says .670 B.C. .335G7. I have never loaded a Lapua bullet but have read to start at .010"-.020" jump for Lapua target bullets and move in from there?

 

[Gil P.]

I just ordered a box of 100 Lapua 6.5 144gr. bullets from Midway for $64.99. I'll get back psn y with my results asap. Lapua says .670 B.C. .335G7. I have never loaded a Lapua bullet but have read to start at .010"-.020" jump for Lapua target bullets and move in from there?

Everyone has their own way. I start at the lands and work my way back.

Im looking forward to your results. What chambering?

 

[Steve Donlon]

Everyone has their own way. I start at the lands and work my way back.

Im looking forward to your results. What chambering?

It's a 6.5 Creedmoor that I have been shooting with 144gr. Bergers. But because of the shape of the bullet I have been jumping them over .100" and they have been shooting 2/12" groups at 800 yards when I do my part. But all my other Sierra and Hornady bullets work at .015-.020" off. So, looking forward to try the same thing with the Lapua bullets.

 

[ernest]

What is your barrel twis rate?

Sorry for the time to answer, it's 1/8

 

[Steve Donlon]

I just got these and compared them to the Berger 144's. Bullet length is Berger is 1.42" avg and Lapua is 1.375" avg. In the comparator the Berger is 1.730" and the Lapua is 1.770" more bearing surface. But when I measured to the lands in my rifle: 2.960" to the lands with the Berger and 2.840" with the Lapua and the base of the bullet right at the shoulder case junction. Perfect! The Lapua are shorter and have more bearing surface.

 

[Steve Donlon]

The one on the left is the Lapua with the Berger 144 on the rt. The Lapua oal 2.825" @ .020 off and the Berger oal is 8.55" @ .105" off.

 

[Willow]

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The one on the left is the Lapua with the Berger 144 on the rt. The Lapua oal 2.825" @ .020 off and the Berger oal is 8.55" @ .105" off.

Is that Lapua meplat pointed?

 

[Steve Donlon]

Is that Lapua meplat pointed?

It looks like the Berger. The Berger has a very little hole in the tip and the Lapua looks a little more even