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New Arken 7x35

You also have to remember that the Arken price point is a lot lower than many of the optics everyone compares them against, ie; Vortex razor, NightForce, etc. So if they are even somewhat close in performance, that’s pretty impressive.

I think it’s fair to say the Arken optical quality is ‘on par’ with scopes in the $500-$1000 range, perhaps even better than some, but I would trust the “mechanical” reliability of an Arken over anything Vortex produces. If you took a Vortex Venom and put it thru some of the turret torture testing like many have with the Arken, I wouldn’t bet a single penny that the Vortex would hold up like the Arken does. That’s a lot more important trait for a scope to have. So if optical quality is similar, then the going with the Arken is the clear choice.

If you have owned a lot of Vortex products and haven’t had a mechanical failure on turrets or side focus yet, then you probably aren’t using them very hard at all
I would imagine the mechanics are more similar than different between an Arken and a Vortex that is in a similar price range.

I have seen these guys that tout "Japanese glass, better than a Razor!".


For $400, maybe I'll try one for myself and if it doesn't work, some sucker will buy it off me.
 
No, definitely not. Arken uses a much more robust all stainless steel erector system. Which is crazy to see on a $300 optic!

Pic of my SH4 G2 4-16x50

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How do you know it's stainless and not aluminum? I mean stainless would account for them being so heavy, I just assumed it was the thick tubing. One thing I love about my EP5 is if my rifle fails I can simply beat the attacker with the scope. Heck probably wouldn't even damage the scope. lol
 
The EP8 1-8x28 is a nice scope for the money. Will it compete with a Trijicon VCOG 1-8x28? Optically NO, not a chance. Mechanically, I would say most likely since everything is solid and tracks great like other Arken scopes, but I haven’t put it thru any sort of abuse yet.

On 1x, there is a very slight rolling ball effect on the extreme edges of the FOV but not quite as bad as other LPVOs in the same price range. Then as magnification increases, it’s good edge to edge clarity with a flat FOV. The resolution is also good, but it leaves you wanting just a touch more. It’s not gonna compete with top glass in the resolution department, but I paid $300 whereas a Trijicon VCOG is about $2100. So for the price, I think the Arken EP8 is well worth the money.
 
How do you know it's stainless and not aluminum?
For one, it just looks like stainless. Maintains a shiny finish and doesn’t dull like aluminum will. Plus the sound the turrets make has a slight “twang” sound like metal on metal as they click and there are extremely solid no matter how much or how fast you crank on the turrets.

Two, a magnet won’t stick to it, but aluminum isn’t magnetic either so I went to a scratch test. Aluminum is easy to mark up and even gouge with a screw driver using light pressure . On the Arken, all I could do was discolor the surface. Gave it pretty good pressure as I drug the screwdriver across it and got no scratches whatsoever, just discoloration marks on the surface.

So not only is it stainless steel, but it is a high quality “low carbon” stainless steel. You can stick a magnet to 416-R stainless steel rifle barrels because they have a higher carbon content that softens them up a bit for better machineability and reduced tooling wear. So I’m guessing Arken uses something like a 304 stainless which has a very low carbon content, is not magnetic, and has a high level of hardness. And 304 stainless is also very dense and heavy so that would definitely add some weight.
 
For one, it just looks like stainless. Maintains a shiny finish and doesn’t dull like aluminum will. Plus the sound the turrets make has a slight “twang” sound like metal on metal as they click and there are extremely solid no matter how much or how fast you crank on the turrets.

Two, a magnet won’t stick to it, but aluminum isn’t magnetic either so I went to a scratch test. Aluminum is easy to mark up and even gouge with a screw driver using light pressure . On the Arken, all I could do was discolor the surface. Gave it pretty good pressure as I drug the screwdriver across it and got no scratches whatsoever, just discoloration marks on the surface.

So not only is it stainless steel, but it is a high quality “low carbon” stainless steel. You can stick a magnet to 416-R stainless steel rifle barrels because they have a higher carbon content that softens them up a bit for better machineability and reduced tooling wear. So I’m guessing Arken uses something like a 304 stainless which has a very low carbon content, is not magnetic, and has a high level of hardness. And 304 stainless is also very dense and heavy so that would definitely add some weight.
Interesting, yeah I thought of magnetic test but then discounted for the same reason. I think there's a few stainless that are not magnetic. Depending which aluminum alloy it can be very hard and/or tough, but I'm not aware of any bare aluminum that wouldn't scratch given reasonable pressure like you tried.

In another life I used to make aluminum shoes for stepping horses, very tough alloy used for those but still scratches and as you showed in the pic doesn't look anodized or otherwise treated. I had the cap off my EP5 once but didn't really pay attention, I was in shock over the weight and still affectionately refer to it as a brick even though since I have a couple others in the 40oz range.
 
So I just initiated a return on Amazon for the Arken EP8. It’s good, but just not that great. The optics always felt a touch out of focus and when I started checking parallax at different ranges, I noticed 8x had a good amount of parallax. Of course there’s no parallax adjustment so no way to get rid of it.

Sorry guys, this one is going back to the farm.

Still really like the SH4 G2 4-16 tho! :)
 
So I just initiated a return on Amazon for the Arken EP8. It’s good, but just not that great. The optics always felt a touch out of focus and when I started checking parallax at different ranges, I noticed 8x had a good amount of parallax. Of course there’s no parallax adjustment so no way to get rid of it.

Sorry guys, this one is going back to the farm.

Still really like the SH4 G2 4-16 tho! :)
At that price point I think people need to remember it could be other copies of that scope are just fine. However you'd have to test 10 or 100 to get an idea where it falls. Maybe they all are like that, maybe you got the 1% with issues, just no way to know. I view these low end as if you get a good copy great, if you don't, do what you did and send it back. I'm not really into exchanges because what if 80% of these have those issues, you might do a lot of exchanges to get an acceptable copy and even if shipping was free your time isn't and more importantly you're never going to get back the time you don't have it in hand.
 
At that price point I think people need to remember it could be other copies of that scope are just fine. However you'd have to test 10 or 100 to get an idea where it falls. Maybe they all are like that, maybe you got the 1% with issues, just no way to know. I view these low end as if you get a good copy great, if you don't, do what you did and send it back. I'm not really into exchanges because what if 80% of these have those issues, you might do a lot of exchanges to get an acceptable copy and even if shipping was free your time isn't and more importantly you're never going to get back the time you don't have it in hand.
My son was up here last weekend and we bought a Cabelas brand “AR” 1-6x24 LPVO for his AR15 which is also in 7.62x39 (and shoots great too!). We got it on sale as a demo model for $150 and honestly I am more impressed with that scope than I was with the Arken EP8.

That’s just the gamble with low priced optics. They can be really good like my SH4, but you can’t win all the time. Oh well!

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My only complaint with arken is they are HEAVY that being said it’s not failed me yet and as I say that I have a Nightforce ATACR currently at Nightforce for a repair and another atacr waiting to go for the same problem and I have to pay $50 shipping each time.
and this is a known production problem nothing I did….
 
My only complaint with arken is they are HEAVY that being said it’s not failed me yet and as I say that I have a Nightforce ATACR currently at Nightforce for a repair and another atacr waiting to go for the same problem and I have to pay $50 shipping each time.
and this is a known production problem nothing I did….
The EP8 LPVO is actually quite lightweight compared to other 34mm tube scopes in that category. I just think having a good flat 1x is tough for Chinese optics when they are trying to stretch the max magnification to 8x
 
My son was up here last weekend and we bought a Cabelas brand “AR” 1-6x24 LPVO for his AR15 which is also in 7.62x39 (and shoots great too!). We got it on sale as a demo model for $150 and honestly I am more impressed with that scope than I was with the Arken EP8.

That’s just the gamble with low priced optics. They can be really good like my SH4, but you can’t win all the time. Oh well!

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Thanks for the report, I was waiting to see what you thought. That answers that, I’m still a fan of my other Arkens, maybe they will revisit the LPVO with some time.
 
LOL, that`s kinda hard to do when just about anything affordable is MADE IN CHYNAW!

I see tons of USA & Japan made scopes having to be sent in for repairs quite often. So there`s that.

I try to avoid chynaw products when i can, but sometimes, ya just gotta suck it up and buy the crap.
Not really. I've had and/or personally seen 3 Chinese Vortex failures, one SIG Chinese failure, one Minox that is simply sub-par. I suppose I would have seen more if I didn't learn pretty quick. I would rather have a used scope than a new one from China.

On the other hand, I own 4 Sightrons with no problems, one Tract with no problems, 3 Leupolds with no problems, one Meopta that is awesome and no problems. And, if I needed another scope, I would not even consider Chinese and I don't care about how "good" the warranty is because a warranty can't buy back time or a bad shooting session.

And finally, I'm not sending my money to the Chinese for them to turn around and use it against our country. Now if you ship some Chinese workers to Germany, Austria, Czechoslovakia, Romania, or Japan to work under their supervision - I would buy one.
 
LOL, that`s kinda hard to do when just about anything affordable is MADE IN CHYNAW!

I see tons of USA & Japan made scopes having to be sent in for repairs quite often. So there`s that.

I try to avoid chynaw products when i can, but sometimes, ya just gotta suck it up and buy the crap.
I agree. There’s actually some real good quality optics coming out of China these days. But when talking budget Chinese optics, they can’t all be perfect. Gonna have a larger amount of lemons in the basket. Of course there’s gonna be lemons from every manufacturer no matter what the price point so just buy the best you can afford. And sometimes it’s fun to mess around with budget Chinese products. Many times you will find some really good quality and innovative designs, sometimes you get garbage. That’s why I read a lot of reviews beforehand and only purchase from vendors that offers no questions asked returns so I’m not stuck with a bad product

If a person wants to avoid buying anything made in China, they either aren’t going to get what they need, or they’re gonna go broke trying to stick to that standard
 
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And finally, I'm not sending my money to the Chinese for them to turn around and use it against our country. Now if you ship some Chinese workers to Germany, Austria, Czechoslovakia, Romania, or Japan to work under their supervision - I would buy one.
News flash bud…your own government uses your tax dollars against you and are a much larger threat to your way of life than China ever will be. I haven’t seen Chinese soldiers invading or attempting to ruin my life in any way, have you?

I’m not promoting buying Chinese stuff, but if China wasn’t willing to make a lot of our products, our way of life and conveniences we have wouldn’t exist. They probably even made the phone or computer you are typing your messages on for this forum. They are a necessary evil for Americans. Just saying
 
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