650.00 for any die is absolutely nuts!! Couldn't agree more.
New Area 419 ZERO M-series sizing die
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650.00 for any die is absolutely nuts!! Couldn't agree more.
Right now, I reload for 3 calibers, 6XC, 6GT and 6.5 CM. I could probably buy ALL 6 of those dies, sizing and seating, for $650. I might need a coupon code or two, but it'd be doable.
When my friends upgrade their cars, they often ask me if I want to drive it. I always decline, for a number of reasons, one of which is that I'm better off not knowing what I'm missing.
Agreed. I call them COVID cars.
Call me at your leisure and I'll point out the vast difs.
I was going to say, surely the Warner die solved all of these issues 'a long time a go, in a galaxy very nearby'.
And still does it better.
I can shim for neck tension.
I can resize my neck turned brass.
I get whatever dimensions I request.
The build quality is unrivalled.
Personally, I just want my 308 Palma Brass resized back to factory fresh dimensions. New out of box 308 Palma shoots stupidly well for me in a match chamber. So returning it to the same dimensions would do the trick for me.
I haven't yet been able to work out if sizing via bushing or sizing via mandrel is better for me. The mandrel improves the neck tension consistency, but can't centre a neck in relation to a case body, so wherever the neck is, there it mostly stays.
I'm waiting for Forster to release a big boy Co-Ax, then I will pull the trigger on a set of Warner dies for my favourite calibers.
Otherwise, for now, a Forster Bushing bump die with a Redding small base die for the web area, does the job just fine. I hate lube and all of the associated steps it requires. I get indefinite reloads using this process.
I spent some serious money on the SAC Modular sizing dies and no one talks about the flaw that is the headspace being set not by the shims (as advertised), but the preload against the shims, which is set by hand, via the top barrel.
For seating, I can't go past the Wilson Inline with an Arbor press. Just magic. I can add the AMP seating machine if I want to waste time with data that adds no real value.
I'm not 100% convinced by the Wilson full length bushing neck die.
I guess I'll be calling Alan about his dies soon enough. I could use my Rock Chucker, but I just love the Co-Ax. No messy floor from primer cup carbon.
And don't get me started on Primer seating. Gee whizz there are some primer seating devices that are massively over priced. My RCBS universal hand primer is fast and consistent. OK, I have strong hands, but a bit of moly lube on teh contact points inside the RCBS and seating small rifle primers is effortless.
And still does it better.
I can shim for neck tension.
I can resize my neck turned brass.
I get whatever dimensions I request.
The build quality is unrivalled.
Personally, I just want my 308 Palma Brass resized back to factory fresh dimensions. New out of box 308 Palma shoots stupidly well for me in a match chamber. So returning it to the same dimensions would do the trick for me.
I haven't yet been able to work out if sizing via bushing or sizing via mandrel is better for me. The mandrel improves the neck tension consistency, but can't centre a neck in relation to a case body, so wherever the neck is, there it mostly stays.
I'm waiting for Forster to release a big boy Co-Ax, then I will pull the trigger on a set of Warner dies for my favourite calibers.
Otherwise, for now, a Forster Bushing bump die with a Redding small base die for the web area, does the job just fine. I hate lube and all of the associated steps it requires. I get indefinite reloads using this process.
I spent some serious money on the SAC Modular sizing dies and no one talks about the flaw that is the headspace being set not by the shims (as advertised), but the preload against the shims, which is set by hand, via the top barrel.
For seating, I can't go past the Wilson Inline with an Arbor press. Just magic. I can add the AMP seating machine if I want to waste time with data that adds no real value.
I'm not 100% convinced by the Wilson full length bushing neck die.
I guess I'll be calling Alan about his dies soon enough. I could use my Rock Chucker, but I just love the Co-Ax. No messy floor from primer cup carbon.
And don't get me started on Primer seating. Gee whizz there are some primer seating devices that are massively over priced. My RCBS universal hand primer is fast and consistent. OK, I have strong hands, but a bit of moly lube on teh contact points inside the RCBS and seating small rifle primers is effortless.
Whatever neck wall variance you see will be transferred to the sized case and therefore your new loaded round. the only remedy is to neck turn ID to be concentric withe the OD. we do this a lot either turning both ID and OD in one set up or ID boring only.
The reason your new brass works so well is because there is enough room from the chamber walls to allow\the round to self center in the chamber. If it aint broke, don't fix it.
You are in luck, not sure if you've seen it but Forster announced the XL at Shot show.
NEW Forster Co-Ax XL Press is COMING (Shot Show 2023) – Ultimate Reloader
ultimatereloader.com
Too bad they missed the info train of 50 years ago--- 50 dies are 1-1/2You are in luck, not sure if you've seen it but Forster announced the XL at Shot show.
NEW Forster Co-Ax XL Press is COMING (Shot Show 2023) – Ultimate Reloader
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