new 700 primary extraction?
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butchlambert
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Yes Sirt, a bunch have that problem. The bolt handle is too far back on the bolt. It will have to be relocated and timed.
I worked on several dozen RAR prefix Remington 700 actions. All had adequate extraction for cartridges loaded to SAAMI pressure. Could some have more, sure. Their are lots of dimensions involved with primary extraction. They are mass produced actions and priced accordingly. Want a perfect action, spend the money on a custom action. BAT and a bunch of others will take your money.
What the hell happened to Remington?
The Sporter weight 700s in my day were a reliable, reasonably accurate, attractive, and affordable hunting rifle. True, if you were looking for sub 1 moa groups, some required a bedding job. Their varmint models with the McMillian stocks were capable of 1/2 moa with tuned reloads.
Then they replaced the walnut stocks with "Tupperware" stocks, mess with the triggers, then messed with the extractors.
My first 700 was a Sporter weight 222 Rem with a wooden stock. With tuned reloads, out of the box, it was not difficult to obtain groups in the 1/2 moa range. The only improvement I made was I added a non-slip butt pad. Took many of ground hogs with that rifle.
I just had to vent. The cure was switching to Tikkas.
The Sporter weight 700s in my day were a reliable, reasonably accurate, attractive, and affordable hunting rifle. True, if you were looking for sub 1 moa groups, some required a bedding job. Their varmint models with the McMillian stocks were capable of 1/2 moa with tuned reloads.
Then they replaced the walnut stocks with "Tupperware" stocks, mess with the triggers, then messed with the extractors.
My first 700 was a Sporter weight 222 Rem with a wooden stock. With tuned reloads, out of the box, it was not difficult to obtain groups in the 1/2 moa range. The only improvement I made was I added a non-slip butt pad. Took many of ground hogs with that rifle.
I just had to vent. The cure was switching to Tikkas.
K22, the Remington you are ranting about is no more. The name was sold a few years ago.
hahahabutchlambert
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Primary extraction, not the extractor.
AlNyhus
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I've had my hands on six or seven of the 'new' 700's from Rem Arms. They ran the gamut from an SPS to a Long Range series gun.
Sadly, the 'long bolt tube' issue that causes the extraction issues doesn't seem to have been addressed by the new group. None of the ones I examined had any contact between the receiver cam angle and the matching angle on the bolt handle.
Just my 2 cents worth based a small sample. -Al
Sadly, the 'long bolt tube' issue that causes the extraction issues doesn't seem to have been addressed by the new group. None of the ones I examined had any contact between the receiver cam angle and the matching angle on the bolt handle.
Just my 2 cents worth based a small sample. -Al
AlNyhus
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Haven't seen one up close and personal. Based on what I'd heard from an insider about the action, I ordered one in 308W when they came out. After waiting a year and a half, I got tired of waiting and cancelled the order. There have been a few available on line in different chamberings. I think Midway had some in 7-08 recently.
Are you looking at a prospective donor action? Or salvaging the barrel/trigger?
It's not a matter of wanting a perfect action, just a matter of wanting one built to work like it should. I have a bunch of mass-produced, factory actions which have all the primary extraction they were designed to have. There is no reason Remington couldn't have done the same. No excuse. WH
I have 3 of them. 2 were purchased as complete rifles, and the other one was a stripped action. All have extracted fine, although I do not run super hot loads like some do here. One rifle has a tight extractor groove that resulted in difficult chambering (headspace was fine, but extractor had a difficult time snapping over case rim) and had to go back for warranty. Warranty is handled externally to Remington. The shop has had the rifle for almost 4 months now and they haven't even touched it yet.
Remington ain't what it used to be. Consider a custom, or a Tikka.
American manufacturing has gone to shit. The quality of worker and product is steadily declining. If the company has good workers and products, then all the shitty consumers try to screw them or get stuff for free, and they eventually close up shop. Sorry for the rant.
Remington ain't what it used to be. Consider a custom, or a Tikka.
American manufacturing has gone to shit. The quality of worker and product is steadily declining. If the company has good workers and products, then all the shitty consumers try to screw them or get stuff for free, and they eventually close up shop. Sorry for the rant.
I would not say it's the American worker. At my place of employment, often when QC issues are brought up, it's passed over and said "it will be fine or if not, it will come back on warranty" from management. It's TOTALLY about quantity over quality the last ten years. All manpower on the floor see's it and we all feel the same way about it. CEO's want their bonus at everyonelse's expense ;(
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A relatively new granddaughter in law needs first rifle. I am shopping.
Pt&g supposedly bought all the left overs.
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