Need opinions and help with choice

[270WinDude]

Well with what has been said by multiple people and the great advice ill be converting to the darkside haha im sure i have some 243 cartridges laying around somewhere and im looking to do some long range shooting in the near future what twist would you recommend for a 243 and should i invest in getting a custom made one or leave that for the big boys in the .30 odd calibers?

Therein lies a problem. I haven't researched it much but I'd look for the fastest twist factory 243 you can find. One benefit to the factory 6creed is that I believe it comes stock with a faster twist which stabilized the popular 100gr class even though case capacity is close. Plenty of info on here and the googlenet. However you will do fine for your application with almost any 243, just make sure you align your bullets with your twist. I just google "what bullets can I shoot with a 243 and 1:9.5 twist" for example. That's just what I'd do, but I really have no experience besides being a basement internet research fiend.

 

[KangarooJack]

Therein lies a problem. I haven't researched it much but I'd look for the fastest twist factory 243 you can find. One benefit to the factory 6creed is that I believe it comes stock with a faster twist which stabilized the popular 100gr class even though case capacity is close. Plenty of info on here and the googlenet. However you will do fine for your application with almost any 243, just make sure you align your bullets with your twist. I just google "what bullets can I shoot with a 243 and 1:9.5 twist" for example. That's just what I'd do, but I really have no experience besides being a basement internet research fiend.

yeah ill look into it all and find the one that suits me but mean while my buddy is trying to convince me to get a 300wm haha i need to do some research

 

[HillBilly98]

Don’t overlook some of the quarter bore options. If you could find a good deal on a 25-06 that would fit the bill pretty well. The 257 Roberts may not be as flat shooting as some of the others but I have worked up some loads for them back in the day that were sweet shooting.

Best of luck

 

[Liven The Dream]

How about a .260 Rem. ??
I built one a few years back. 120 gr. Bullets what a Coyote Killer.
300 yard Plus shot off the bed of the truck . Had a Buddy that would walk the shots off to check the distance..
I should have never sold Him that Rifle....

 

[JRS]

Forget the girly-man calibers Go 25 caliber. "Dare to be different".

 

[grovey]

I have a special run 8 twist SS Tikka t3x lite 22/250 with low mileage . If that interests you ,send me a pm.

 

[Ringostar]

I have to ask, where are you located? By the user name, and mentioned meters. I assume that your not in the U.S. That can make a difference on recommendation. Since you are not set up to load other cartridges. I would look into availability of factory ammo in your area.

 

[Richard Coody]

for your price range you could build a savage or remage switchbarrel and have a .22-250, .243 and a 6.5 something. a simple 15 minute barrel change and you have a new rifle.

 

[KangarooJack]

I have to ask, where are you located? By the user name, and mentioned meters. I assume that your not in the U.S. That can make a difference on recommendation. Since you are not set up to load other cartridges. I would look into availability of factory ammo in your area.

Located in Australia, 22-250's is on the cheaper side compared to the 243 and 6.5 there will be no shortage of them im not worried about the cost of ammo either, also considering the 300wm at this point ive got loads of gear for reloading for 22-250/300wm and some stuff for the 243 so all are in question only thing that turns me off the 300wm is the barrell life, being a big sucka im guessing it wont last any where near the 22/250 but i could be wrong i need to do some research in my spare time and get the one that suits me the best...

 

[gambleone]

22-250 to 300wm is a very wide range. I would try and narrow this down to what you will
be mainly shooting. Richard Cooody had some good advice regarding switch barrels. Doesn't have to be a savage. From what you stated though, a 6br would be a cover all for you. imho.

 

[KangarooJack]

22-250 to 300wm is a very wide range. I would try and narrow this down to what you will
be mainly shooting. Richard Cooody had some good advice regarding switch barrels. Doesn't have to be a savage. From what you stated though, a 6br would be a cover all for you. imho.

The 243 or 6.5 is what ill be looking into at this point considering the 22-250 also but realistically i dont need 300wm or a 30 odd caliber gun at this point and my buddy already has a 303 to take down the big stuff so im leaning towards something im the mid range of calibers!

 

[Ringostar]

Looking at the Tikka website, they list the twist rate. 22-250 is a 14" twist which is more suited to small varmint bullets. 243 is an 11" twist which is also geared toward lighter bullets. The 6.5 is a different story. They offer 260rem, 6.5 Swede, and 6.5 Creedmoor all at 8" twist which will shoot the heavy target bullets and lighter bullets very well. I would look into any of those 3 choices. All 3 are great cartridges with good barrel life.

 

[alinwa]

A couple more thoughts, from experience with these chamberings.....

#1, the 300WM isn't exactly a terrible choice as I don't believe barrel life will be a factor betwixt all's your choices and if it IS..... the very best difference you'll get between say a 300WM and a 6.5 Creedmoor will be 10-15%...????....MAYBE the 6.5 will go for 10% more rounds???

And #2, the 300WM isn't a terrible choice because 110/112/118/125 gr bullets. The 300 mags are !!SPECTACULAR!! vermin busters with the tiny bullets. And they don't recoil much. Just remember, a 112BIB going 4200fps will frag one of your liddle deers into freeway roadkill in one shot. This combination will SNERT a deer or even a roo.

And don't even worry about twist being "too tight"

Most people get their information from charts but take it from one who's fired thousands of light bullets thru tight twists, "over-stabilization" is a complete MYTH perpetuated by uninformed nerdsites like 'Nennstiel-Rupprecht' et al. I could explain why but you'd have to kill me.....

You will blow some bullets up, maybe, but who cares. Slow them down a little or try another bullet. Bullets have been coming apart since the invention of smokeless powder. You WILL NOT blow up Nosler Ballistic Tips, really only bullet you'll ever need for your program

G'Luck

 

[Dusty Stevens]

The 300wm will get at least twice the barrel life of the other options listed. Not sure how it became known as a barrel burner but its sure not

 

[Nature Boy]

The 22-250 is off the table for most people when considering deer

Actually, it's pretty popular in the south for the smaller, indigenous whitetail population. I've seen deer taken with it and it does a number on them.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Actually, it's pretty popular in the south for the smaller, indigenous whitetail population. I've seen deer taken with it and it does a number on them.

Fastest ive ever seen deer die was with my 22-250ack and 52gr benchrest bullets

 

[270WinDude]

Actually, it's pretty popular in the south for the smaller, indigenous whitetail population. I've seen deer taken with it and it does a number on them.

In reading my entire comment you'd notice that I used about 5 vague words to describe a 22-250 as a deer rifle. I wasn't aware of it's popularity in the southern states, so thanks for the info. I am certain I could build a 22-250 that would do a number on em' and here in Oregon, if I'm not mistaken, any centerfire .22 or larger may be used on deer and possibly elk... per regulation. (I am uncertain of that but a quick look at the regs lead me to believe that to be true.) I'm a shot placement person and if I go hunting I learn the anatomy of the animal and study the pertinent terminal ballistics given the estimated range of my shot. Having said that, I've seen people argue that a 243win is not sufficient for deer, and I assume they'd make that argument even for the deer you speak of. I've even seen forum posts (not here) of people saying a 270win isn't sufficient for elk. All things considered, if one is wanting to build a 22cal centerfire for hunting deer, I'd make sure it's legal where you live first.

 

[270WinDude]

Fastest ive ever seen deer die was with my 22-250ack and 52gr benchrest bullets

What is the optimal range on a gun like that shooting those bullets? I haven't researched it but I am very curious what a 22-250, especially ai, could reach out to accurately with those 50gr bullets.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

What is the optimal range on a gun like that shooting those bullets? I haven't researched it but I am very curious what a 22-250, especially ai, could reach out to accurately with those 50gr bullets.

I never shot it past 300 but it was a laser to there. Killing deer i probably never went past 200 but coyotes didnt like it at 300 for sure

 

[JRS]

You might be surprised how many states require only a centerfire cartridge for deer hunting, which includes the 22 centerfire cartridges.