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Need Help With MOA????

Just think of it as an angular measurement where 1 MOA is equivalent to 1” at 100 yards, 2” at 200 yards, etc.

Again, it is an *angular* measurement.

Don’t over think it.

If you want to get down to definitions, it is 1/60th of one degree where there are 360 degrees in a complete circle.
 
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Might or might not be the best place for this...but here goes.

MOA has me baffled!

I thought I had some grasp of it, but reading on another reloading forum has me screwed up again...

Nautical Miles makes tons of sense to me...1.15 nautical miles = 1 statute mile ...I use it all the time in my boats. I'm not very proficient with math, so that might have something to do with it...

Ok...I thought;
1 MOA at 100yds was just over 1"
1 MOA at 200yds was just over 2"
So on and so forth...

I say "just over" because I don't recall exactly...1.047...or something close to that.


Is that not right?

Of course I get the degrees of angle...use a compass in my boats too...it's the math of it that confuses me.
Some Navigator you are" Christ we'll end up on the rocks:confused:
 
Dudes!

A circle is 360 degrees. 60 minutes per degree. 60 seconds per minute.

One minute turns out to be 1” at 100 yards. Very handy unit of measurement.

Don’t overthink it.
 
I came across this, maybe it can confuse things a little more ?

Minute and Second of Arch:

Not to be confused with Milliradian.
This article is about arcsec (unit of angle). For the inverse function, see arcsec (trigonometric function).
Arcminute

An illustration of the size of an arcminute. A standard association football ball (22 cm diameter) subtends an angle of 1 arcminute at a distance of approximately 775 meters.
Unit information
Unit system
Non-SI units mentioned in the SI
Unit of Angle
Symbol  or arcmin 
In units Dimensionless with an arc length of approx. ≈ 0.2908/1000 of the radius, i.e. 0.2908 mm/m
Unit conversions
1 in ... ... is equal to ...
degrees 1/60° = 0.016°
arcseconds 60′′
radians π/10800 ≈ 0.000290888 rad
milliradians ≈ 0.2908 mil
gons 600/9g = 66.6g
turns 1/21600
A minute of arc, arcminute (arcmin), arc minute, or minute arc is a unit of angular measurement equal to 1/60 of one degree. Since one degree is 1/360 of a turn (or complete rotation), one minute of arc is 1/21600 of a turn. A minute of arc is π/10800 of a radian. A second of arc, arcsecond (arcsec), or arc second is 1/60 of an arcminute, 1/3600 of a degree, 1/1296000 of a turn, and π/648000 (about 1/206265) of a radian. These units originated in Babylonian astronomy as sexagesimal subdivisions of the degree; they are used in fields that involve very small angles, such as astronomy, optometry, ophthalmology, optics, navigation, land surveying, and marksmanship.

To express even smaller angles, standard SI prefixes can be employed; the milliarcsecond (mas) and microarcsecond (μas), for instance, are commonly used in astronomy.

The number of square arcminutes in a complete sphere is 4π(10800π)2=466560000π≈
0791ce92eb1b60936cb2203044e07fadf3e86a5f
148510660 square arcminutes (the surface area of a unit sphere in square units divided by the solid angle area subtended by a square arcminute, also in square units - so that the final result is a dimensionless number).
 
Hom many mils to bring a water line 9 - just out of the 10 ring, to center X of an F - Class target?

What a silly response...unless you're an F class shooter you'd have absolutely no idea how many inches/MOA/Mil it would take. Tell me the inches of impact shift and I can easily tell you how many mils.
 
Oh wait, is the 10 ring 20" in diameter? Then that's really easy...One Mil at 1000 yards is approx. 36 inches, one tenth of a Mil (one click) is 3.6 inches. Give it 3 clicks.
 
Oh wait, is the 10 ring 20" in diameter? Then that's really easy...One Mil at 1000 yards is approx. 36 inches, one tenth of a Mil (one click) is 3.6 inches. Give it 3 clicks....

Kind of my point:

The answer in MOA is 1 .
Much simpler than calculating mils as conditions change.
Anyone familiar with targets would get that, without doing math.
 
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Oh wait, is the 10 ring 20" in diameter? Then that's really easy...One Mil at 1000 yards is approx. 36 inches, one tenth of a Mil (one click) is 3.6 inches. Give it 3 clicks.
Is this right? Now I want to know because I'm learning... I'm in the back of the class not putting my hand up and trying to look down the girls tops, oops did I say that out loud. ;)
 
Is this right? Now I want to know because I'm learning... I'm in the back of the class not putting my hand up and trying to look down the girls tops, oops did I say that out loud. ;)

No, it's not right.
With regards to F Class Targets:
X ring is 1/2 MOA (~5" for 1k)
10 Ring is 1 MOA, (~10" for 1k)
9 Ring is 2 MOA....
so to answer my original question - it's a simple 1 MOA to center X, assuming target corresponds to distance being shot.

Nothing wrong with asking about what's unknown...
 
No, it's not right.
With regards to F Class Targets:
X ring is 1/2 MOA (~5" for 1k)
10 Ring is 1 MOA, (~10" for 1k)
9 Ring is 2 MOA....
so to answer my original question - it's a simple 1 MOA to center X, assuming target corresponds to distance being shot.

Nothing wrong with asking about what's unknown...

What's wrong with my answer?

3 clicks on a Mil scope would equal 10.8 inches.
You're making things more complicated than they are.

Your process is actually more complicated than using my Mil process. Look at how much typing your explanation took vs. mine.

Oh my, it just occurred to me that you are using target ring sizes that are half of what I'm using, in which case, you're wrong. If the 10 ring is 10" in diameter, and the impact is on the edge of the 10 ring, then the impact is 5 inches from the X and that's half an MOA at 1000 yards. Of course, that all depends on what you are calling a "water line" 9 impact. I'm not familiar with that term so I'm assuming that you are describing an impact that is on the edge of the 10 ring line.
 
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What's wrong with my answer?

3 clicks on a Mil scope would equal 10.8 inches.
You're making things more complicated than they are.

Your process is actually more complicated than using my Mil process. Look at how much typing your explanation took vs. mine.

"1 MOA" is a complex answer?

I'm not making things more complex, merely correcting your errors, and assumptions.
I never stated a distance in my original query, because it wouldn't change the answer.
The dimensions you state are incorrect.
 
"1 MOA" is a complex answer?

I'm not making things more complex, merely correcting your errors, and assumptions.
I never stated a distance in my original query, because it wouldn't change the answer.
The dimensions you state are incorrect.


OK, first answer my question, what is a "water line 9" impact.
 

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