Hi I am new to the site and was wondering if anybody maybe able to tell me what I'm doing wrong, I have a Remington 700 22-250 varmint special and my load is Sierra 55 gr. SBT with 34.1 grs. IMR 3031 at 50 yards it's cutting bullet holes but at 100 yards it's putting them in a baseball size group. Any advice would be appreciated, I'm new to reloading
Need help with 22-250 load
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long40shot
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Are all your screws tight? Scope and action?
Shynloco
You can lead a horse to water, but ........
Coondog,
If I may make a suggestion to you, something I've done over the years regardless of how old or new I was to reloading, is to go to the Sierra Manual (because you are using Sierra bullets) and take a look on the bullet weight page. Look at the velocity of their "Accuracy Load" and see what powder they used (RE15) and also compare your load in terms of powder gr weight. You could easily be either too high or too low in your powder, not to mention looking at the list of alternative powders they recommend other than your 3031 which I see is listed. And if you can find someone to mentor you that's local, that would be extremely helpful to a new reloader.
Most of all, be patient. Reloading is both fun and challenging. It's not something you learn overnight and the learning process is endless. If you have a question, ask and expect to see all sorts of suggestions. Remember, what works for one reloader, won't necessarily work for another. But the REAL trick is to find what YOUR PARTICULAR RIFLE likes because what works in one rifle, won't necessarily work in another for a myriad of reason. But good luck and plug away.
Alex
Coondog, great ideas from those above. My suggestion, in addition to theirs, is to go down to 50gr bullets and see what happens to your groups. When I got my 700V BDL 22/250 (1:14 twist), I loaded 60, 55 and 50gr bullets. At the 100 yard range I started with 60gr bullets. The pattern was horrible, I was very disappointed. I switched to the 55's and the groups were about 1-1/2". Then down to 50's and it shrunk considerably smaller yet. If someone had told me of the circumstances that I observed first hand, I would have been skeptical. It was dramatic. I will not bother with anything heavier than 53's in the future. Of course every rifle is different but I don't think that the twist in mine is able to stabilize the heavier (longer) bullets despite a fairly high velocity.
Good luck, Peter.
Good luck, Peter.
Yes they're all tight
Sorry I didn't mention that earlier but the rifle was made in 1989 and it has the Redfield Golden 5 Star Accu Trac 6x18 scope, the gun has never been fired until 2 weeks ago, the man I bought it from gave me the original Remington box and the scope box
Ten 4 , if you have some time look into parallax and it's effects on point of aim point of impact discrepancies... If the scope does not have an adjustment for parallax then it is probably factory set for 100yds... That is not to say that it is still doing its job lol.
If this is something you're no stranger to then my apologies.. But it is something that can happen to the best of us.
Good luck
Gary in MD
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Try a 55 grain flat base bullet or the 50 grainers as already suggested. The 14" twist that you have is marginal with the 55 grain boat tails.
Gary
Gary
Thank you I will try that
long40shot
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Varget has always been my 22-250 powder. With a 55grn bullet, 36.4 has always been a track driver. If a load change doesn't help, if you have another scope laying around you might try that.
Thank you, I've heard a lot of good things about varget, I been meaning to get some to try
Suggestions:
Powders that worked very well for me in the 22 250: IMR 4895, Varget, IMR 4064.
H 380 shot very tight but had pressure problems with high temperatures in the field.
You may want to try 50 grain bullets since they tend to work better with a 14" twist which I believe is standard in Rems. The Nosler 50 grain BT's with Varget grouped under 1/2 moa in my Rem 700 Varmint.
Many Remington's have a pressure point at the end of the stock forearm. I never could get any Rem to shoot with these pressure points. I free floated the barrel and they all shot much better.
If you have one the cheap injection molded stocks consider replacing with a Bell and Carlson Medalist stock or glass bedding the rifle in the existing factory stock. The Hogue pillar bedded stocks are a cheaper option and have worked very well for me.
Powders that worked very well for me in the 22 250: IMR 4895, Varget, IMR 4064.
H 380 shot very tight but had pressure problems with high temperatures in the field.
You may want to try 50 grain bullets since they tend to work better with a 14" twist which I believe is standard in Rems. The Nosler 50 grain BT's with Varget grouped under 1/2 moa in my Rem 700 Varmint.
Many Remington's have a pressure point at the end of the stock forearm. I never could get any Rem to shoot with these pressure points. I free floated the barrel and they all shot much better.
If you have one the cheap injection molded stocks consider replacing with a Bell and Carlson Medalist stock or glass bedding the rifle in the existing factory stock. The Hogue pillar bedded stocks are a cheaper option and have worked very well for me.
I might have to try that, right now I have 55 gr. Sierra SBT and Sierra 55 gr. HPBT with IMR 4064, Varget, and IMR 3031. Now I'm trying to figure out the best load for one of those bullets and powder? So anybody that has any those loads please share
If the stock is touching the barrel this could be the cause of the accuracy problems. However it may be an engineered pressure point but usually those are a few inches in front of the recoil lug. If the stock is touching the side of the barrel then this is not an engineer pressure point and is often a detriment to accuracy. Typically the heavy barrel varmint Rems are fully free floated. I've had my best results with barrels that are fully free floated with one exception - my Weatherby Super Varmint Master has a pressure point about three inches in front of the recoil lug and is engineered that way. This rifle in a sub 1/2 moa rifle with tailored reloads.
55g sierra SBT 1365, 37.5g varget, lapua or Winchester brass, cci 200, br2, or fed 210M. That load has shot extremely well in several factory and custom 22-250s I've owned or worked up loads for. Work up to that load, free float your barrel and i highly recommend bedding the recoil lug or pillar and fully stress free bed it. Also make sure your glass is good. It should shoot itty bitty bug holes. Also if that gun hasn't been shot up till a couple weeks ago make sure the inside of the barrel doesn't have any build up of old sticky oil. Brush the barrel out to make sure you get it all out of you haven't done already.
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