Need help getting,hBN) to stick on bullets

[SongdogHunter]

I did the same thing, and mine look the same hadn't had a chance to shoot them yet, to see if there is any difference, but had trouble getting the stuff to adhere to the bullets. But they are slippery.


SDH

 

[johara1]

can some one tell me where to buy this stuff?......jim

 

[MLC]

From JRS for starters.

 

[FALPhil]

What is the cleaning regimen when using hBN?

 

[JRS]

FALPhil,

The same as cleaning using bare bullets. Nothing special or different has to be performed.

Rich

 

[JRS]

Songdoghunter,

What is the particle size you are using?
If it's too large or small, you are going to have problems.
All hBN is not equal nor suitable for bullet coating.

Rich

 

[Will]

How are you prepping the bore prior to firing the BN coated bullets ? I could shoot over my moly prepped bore but I was never a follower of shooting the moly in. I always coated the bore with either MsMoly or taking a bore mop and coating a bore mop and burnishing in. Would this also work on the BN ?

Thanks

 

[JRS]

Will,

There is no reason to coat the bore, unless you truly believe some type of coating process is going to benefit you some how.

Rich

 

[Will]

Rich, in years past some moly shooters shot a few rounds, then cleaned and did this for about 40 or so rounds till the bore was "seasoned" . I never liked that idea since it seemed to me that you were also laying down a load of powder fouling with each shot. Hence prepping the bore,burnishing in moly PRIOR) before firing. I seemed to have less cleanup and it didn't take any time to have a cold bore zero that was repeatable.

I have 2 "almost new",less than 200 rounds" barrels that I will clean to the Nth degree and give it a go with the new Berger 175 BT I have just finished BN coating.

Will pass on results as soon as I can.

Thanks

 

[JRS]

Will,

The hBN coated bullets will impart a trace of particle on the bore each time you fire a round. This will be more than sufficient to put a coating on the bore. The use of hBN also makes cleaning much easier, less messy and due to it's lubricity and ability to withstand very high temperatures, does a great job of keeping the jackets in tact at higher than normal velocities. Good luck with your shooting!

One more use for hBN is a lube for your front bag. Nothing slicker or cleaner!!!!!

Rich

 

[rogn]

I have mixed hBN with Mobil1 making a paste. I have found this to be an outstanding lube for bolts and locking lugs. Very, very little is needed and it stays forever. Used on slide rails on bottom feeding handguns gives them a new meaning for "slick". But I cant seem to get the results I want to have on bullets. Just got frustrated with it. Mostly for the same reasons mentioned. I think I over coated bullets for a 300WM and accuracy declined dramatically.. Need to get back in the "lab" I guess.

WOW, this was an OLD one.

 

[normmatzen]

I have been using hBN for about 10 years. I use steel BBs in small glass jars. I have been using 0.7N M.
I put them into my vibrator with a 1" black foam sheet (Home Depot) cut in a shape to fit into the vibrator bowl with 3 round holes to locate the jars (I think 8oz), then the vibrator lid in clamped on very snugly so the jars can move with the bowl. I put 1/3 box of 100 bullets, cleaned with methyl alcohol, in each jar with 1/3 of a large container of copper clad steel BBs. In each jar I put 30 gr of hBN or just cover half the tip of a medium straight slot screw driver. I run the vibrator 2-3 hours , separate the bullets from the BBs and put the coated bullets in a big long winter sock and let them slide back and forth for a few times. The bullets have about the same color as naked bullets but do not have the shine they originally had.
And, they are slick!
Don't worry about the sock taking off the coating, the hBN is actually impacted into the skin of the bullet and what is wiped off is excess. Very little hBN is needed to coat 100 bullets. If the surface loose hBN isn't taken off they will shoot poorly. Don't ask how I know that!

 

[Twicepop]

Using HBN on bullets, are you trying to achieve the same desired effect that you would get from using Moly or Danzac? On a different note, several years back I read an article about the pros and cons of coated bullets. The two materials used were Danzac and Moly, and according the writer they both had their good and bad attributes. Then it was discussed about tumbling the bullets with steel shot/balls like impact plating Moly, only using no coating medium. The author said that in theory it should have the same effect as the dimples on a golf ball, micro dimpling the bullet surface. These make a golf ball fly straighter and longer, and the number of these dimples is highly regulated by the PGA. This was/is because adding even one more dimple on the ball surface with all other things being equal, it's supposed to make the ball fly between 70 and 120 yards farther than the ball with a regulated dimple count. The article said that the PGA regulated this because virtually every golf course in the country would have to be redesigned to allow the extra range all the balls would fly. Ten I never was able to find a follow up story if this would work with bullets also.

 

[rogn]

I have been using hBN for about 10 years. I use steel BBs in small glass jars. I have been using 0.7N M.
I put them into my vibrator with a 1" black foam sheet (Home Depot) cut in a shape to fit into the vibrator bowl with 3 round holes to locate the jars (I think 8oz), then the vibrator lid in clamped on very snugly so the jars can move with the bowl. I put 1/3 box of 100 bullets, cleaned with methyl alcohol, in each jar with 1/3 of a large container of copper clad steel BBs. In each jar I put 30 gr of hBN or just cover half the tip of a medium straight slot screw driver. I run the vibrator 2-3 hours , separate the bullets from the BBs and put the coated bullets in a big long winter sock and let them slide back and forth for a few times. The bullets have about the same color as naked bullets but do not have the shine they originally had.
And, they are slick!
Don't worry about the sock taking off the coating, the hBN is actually impacted into the skin of the bullet and what is wiped off is excess. Very little hBN is needed to coat 100 bullets. If the surface loose hBN isn't taken off they will shoot poorly. Don't ask how I know that!

I think this is what I ran into with the 300. In my zeal to get a detectable coating I think I just clumped too much on.It was visual at that point. Groups were really degraded.

 

[rsbhunter]

Hbn is another process that has believers and non believers.....as to coating the barrel as well, coat some bullets, rub your fingers on the cloth used to remove excess. Try to pick up a bullet standing on it's base....it can be done, but it is a challenge . Don't have empirical evidence that it helps.....but I use it in every rifle I own. Till it proves to not be a benefit, I'll use it...Gives me that warm fuzzy feeling...rsbhunter