Nat'l Firearms Background Check Law Intro

[Average joe]

Some how I think your missing the point
Wouldn’t it be better to give a little to get a lot
I as a
Gun owner. Know many people have guns that are not responsible
Wouldn’t a education course make sense
If a person has that they shouldn’t have to go through the background check
It could be the first time you have to and every so many years have the criminal side renewal
Like a driver license

Dasher, this test that you propose for gun ownership, I hope for your sake it’s not an essay test.

 

[people]

Some how I think your missing the point
Wouldn’t it be better to give a little to get a lot
I as a
Gun owner. Know many people have guns that are not responsible
Wouldn’t a education course make sense
If a person has that they shouldn’t have to go through the background check
It could be the first time you have to and every so many years have the criminal side renewal
Like a driver license

You are missing the point we have already given up so much it is not funny. So if I take this test can I start making machineguns and take a hack saw to all of my shotguns?

 

[people]

We see all the crazy things that other do on u tube .
Our gun club is in jeopardy of having to close because of stupid people
That is the reas I said
Everyone should have to have a class on safety before owning a gun including me

Your range issue is a "your range issue"! Why punish everyone because of a few bad apples.

Three questions.
1. what would be on your test?
2. do you think many of your friends would ever pass?
3. Do you think the government can be trusted to keep it as you set forth? like putting in some ridiculous round count or having to have 20/20 vision with out correction.

Your idea of a test will not stop jackasses from being jackasses. Every range I have ever been to that had bad shooters where ranges where you could only shoot paper.

 

[rr2030]

I think non biased firearms safety training and certification should be part of K-6 education, just like swimming and receiving the red cross swim certificate in the late 50's early 60's was for me.

 

[ED3]

Some how I think your missing the point
Wouldn’t it be better to give a little to get a lot
I as a
Gun owner. Know many people have guns that are not responsible
Wouldn’t a education course make sense
If a person has that they shouldn’t have to go through the background check
It could be the first time you have to and every so many years have the criminal side renewal
Like a driver license

Do you really think the violent people creating the headlines are going to take a class so they can become legitimate gun owners? They trade dope for guns, fence stolen property for cash to buy stolen guns, and steal guns...and you think that person is going to suddenly respect the law?

As far as your gun club: make all the rules you and your club members care to.
Being a gun club member, and being a citizen of the US have different rights, responsibilities, and privileges.

 

[ED3]

I think non biased firearms safety training and certification should be part of K-6 education, just like swimming and receiving the red cross swim certificate in the late 50's early 60's was for me.

Nothing wrong with teaching people to be safe. But swimming and owning a gun are separate issues.
Would you support a law that says no one can go near water without a gov't approved swimming certificate?

 

[JimT]

In my opinion, it's about time political threads, or a designated Topic group is allowed on here. The elephant is in the room, and today every thing we gun owners do is political, like or not.
I for one am done letting the NRA do the talking for me.

I don’t think you get it. Gun owners make up a very small percentage of the voting public. There is a sizable non-gun owning segment that is susceptible to siding with gun ownership, but are turned off by people who can’t articulate why a bump stock or 100 round magazine is necessary.

The NRA deals with this everyday and seems to understand the boundaries of what is possible and advisable and what is pure brain dead rhetoric.

You are free to speak your mind, but you’re not going to change many, in my estimation.

 

[ED3]

I don’t think you get it. Gun owners make up a very small percentage of the voting public. There is a sizable non-gun owning segment that is susceptible to siding with gun ownership, but are turned off by people who can’t articulate why a bump stock or 100 round magazine is necessary.

The NRA deals with this everyday and seems to understand the boundaries of what is possible and advisable and what is pure brain dead rhetoric.

You are free to speak your mind, but you’re not going to change many, in my estimation.

And you won't change anything by simply giving up.

What other things that are legal to own should have to be justified as necessary?

Ever hear the NHRA say: "That's way more horsepower than a car needs "?

 

[Bojo]

Maybe we should just punish all the sober drivers for the acts of the drunk drivers ???????
Does that not sound as dumb as could be ?
May 30th 2014 my home was broken into
Lots of jewelry. 2 shotguns and 1 handgun stolen. Plus all the damage he did in the process. #/%/^^^! gets busted 16 homes in this string as he was out on bond awaiting sentencing for previous burglaries. Fessed up and or gets caught for 15 of said homes. Firearms were stolen in 12 of the 15. He is only doing 10.5 to 21 years. In my opinion he should have been hung publicly in the town square on a Saturday am. My only hope is that he overdoses in prison and gets unwanted attention from someone who is lonely.

 

[338 Mollett]

Gentlemen there are several good points mentioned .Pardon me if I missed this but the underlying cause is the mental and moral corruption of our society !The very fiber of the formation of our country has been corrupted or compromised at all levels.2 plus 2 is not 4 any more, it is what ever it can be made to be, to whom it benefits the one in power the most.From the guy holding the sign on the street corner thinking these folks are suckers ,to the politician preaching to some special interest group thinking these folks are suckers.No one wants to hear their prized pig is just a pig.In other words our government is just an extension of our society .WE ARE THAT UGLY AND CORRUPT.It is the format of this forum to only discuss firearms issues,which I appreciate,occasionally touching on political issues when it pertains to said firearms but I say This is a pitiful sliver of the issues we really face !

 

[muleman69]

A firearm safety certificate should be a requirement young or old no matter what. Does not matter who we are we need to no how to handle a firearm. There is a lot of people out there that don't realize what they have in there passion and what it is capable of . . Most would not have a problem with taking a class. Safety first .

 

[Dodge61]

A firearm safety certificate should be a requirement young or old no matter what. Does not matter who we are we need to no how to handle a firearm. There is a lot of people out there that don't realize what they have in there passion and what it is capable of . . Most would not have a problem with taking a class. Safety first .

No, No, No, No, I don't think so. There are many people with all different types of certificates/license that have passed some type of course, and they are some of the most dangerous people to be around. For example, how many deaths on the roads from reckless driving, speeding, dwi's etc. These people took a written test, a road test, and some even took driver's education, and thousands are killed each year. This has "nothing" to do with safety. Don't fall for it, not for one second. Oh and lastly, THANKS very much for your service to our country.

 

[JimT]

And you won't change anything by simply giving up.

What other things that are legal to own should have to be justified as necessary?

Ever hear the NHRA say: "That's way more horsepower than a car needs "?

I think you meant to type NHTSA.

 

[ED3]

I think you meant to type NHTSA.

No, I meant the NHRA, the National Hot Rod Association which has a relationship with automobiles similar to the NRA does (or at least should) with firearms.
If NHTSA mean National Highway Transportation Safety Administration, then you completely missed my point.

 

[savagedasher]

And you won't change anything by simply giving up.

What other things that are legal to own should have to be justified as necessary?

Ever hear the NHRA say: "That's way more horsepower than a car needs "?

I know you have to be certified to drive a top fuel car
NHRA requires that

 

[muleman69]

No, No, No, No, I don't think so. There are many people with all different types of certificates/license that have passed some type of course, and they are some of the most dangerous people to be around. For example, how many deaths on the roads from reckless driving, speeding, dwi's etc. These people took a written test, a road test, and some even took driver's education, and thousands are killed each year. This has "nothing" to do with safety. Don't fall for it, not for one second. Oh and lastly, THANKS very much for your service to our country.

Don't get me wrong,I do not want the goverment involved in anything .But at our level as shooters and hunters and law abiders we need to educate our children. And thank you for thanking me

 

[ED3]

I know you have to be certified to drive a top fuel car
NHRA requires that

Only if you do it at one of their drag strips, or events.
And again, my point is missed.

 

[rr2030]

Nothing wrong with teaching people to be safe. But swimming and owning a gun are separate issues.
Would you support a law that says no one can go near water without a gov't approved swimming certificate?

Reply 1) I don't see it as separate issues. I am saying from a safety stand point that booth are reasonable. You are taking it farther by implying there may government required swimming certificates. I think that if every child in introduced to firearms at a young age, we may have more support as they get older because of respect for the firearm.

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Reply 2) yes I absolutely feel all swimmers should have swimming certificates, waiting periods, background checks and be required to wear enough government approved safety devices and equipment to the point that the gear almost drowns them in a government regulated swimming pool or water way.

 

[ED3]

Reply 1) I don't see it as separate issues. I am saying from a safety stand point that booth are reasonable. You are taking it farther by implying there may government required swimming certificates. I think that if every child in introduced to firearms at a young age, we may have more support as they get older because of respect for the firearm.

or

Reply 2) yes I absolutely feel all swimmers should have swimming certificates, waiting periods, background checks and be required to wear enough government approved safety devices and equipment to the point that the gear almost drowns them in a government regulated swimming pool or water way.

Perhaps I misunderstood your post. Teaching kids gun safety in school - where I first learned it in an afterschol activity class - is a good thing.. a law requiring me to take a class in order to own a firearm is not a good thing.

 

[cinch29433]

If it wasn’t a national crisis why would be brought up time and time again
Fix it and then it will stop
New Years night a neighbor had a bullet hit his car
Tell me the person was a responsible
Gun owner

There are bad people in the world who would shoot your neighbors car even though its against the law, they aren't supposed to be shooting in city limits or whatever. The criminal element does not care about cards or compliance or if they are shooting after dark. There are folks out there that didn't listen when their Ma told them not to smoke cigarettes. We have a responsibility to teach our families and others we care about.