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Glad you are testing negative now Butch -- that's great news! What prophylatics things were you doing? The situation is getting pretty serious in SoCal now where I live.
 
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Glad to hear your doing better.
I spent a total of 8 hours in the truck. 4 hours in the deer stand and all weekend in the travel trailer at the deer lease with my 16 year old son. Saturday evening when he came back from the stand he said he wasn't feeling good and he was just fine when he went out that afternoon. We did hunt together that morning. I wanted him to shoot a cull that I have been seeing and was a no show that morning. He hunted his stand that evening. Sunday morning we didn't go to the stand and came home early. We both went that evening for covid test. The quick tests were both negative and we got the 24 hr test where they stick that thing up your nose to your brain. You sure don't stick your finger in your nose that far. So, Monday I get a phone call I'm negative and he is positive. I told him he passed his covid test. So far he says the worst thing is his throat is on fire and he is running 99.3 temp. We are all on lock down. And we will be having Christmas to ourselves, which earlier I told my wife that probably would be a good idea anyways before this happened. He feels bad about the Christmas and not seeing his grandparents. I told him you cant help if you get a virus. Then come find out my brother in law and sister in law both have it also, which we haven't been around. And the worst symptom they have is sore throat also. So far I feel ok and so does my daughter and my wife. I figured I would be sick by now. But it seems to come on really fast from what I saw with my son and what my brother in law and sister in law have said also. I guess he got it from school. Friday was his last day before Christmas vacation.
 
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Glad you are testing negative now Butch -- that's great news! What prophylatics things were you doing? The situation is getting pretty serious in SoCal now where I live.
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Vit C, B1 (thiamine), Zinc, Vit D, and a baby aspirin is normal course of treatment right now.
 
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5000 D3, 50 Zinc, 1000 C, 400 E........I am around a lot of folks that are around a lot of folks. I tested neg. 3 weeks ago and will be tested again in a week before knee surgery. I thought for sure that I had already had it but I guess not yet......I am 63. Glad to hear you tested negative Butch.....:cool:

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Rick
 
For you guys taking Zinc (I am) you want to research "IONOPHORE". While Zinc has general benefits for the immune system, there is evidence that, when combined with an ionophore which helps the Zinc pass into cells, there may be some very important benefits. This is explained in MedCram videos. It's really pretty fascinating. Once you learn how the COVID-19 virus hijacks the body's own RNA replication process to reproduce within our cells... you may get interested in learning more.
 
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You honestly think a mask will stop a virus?
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Yup. 100% prevent? Not necessarily. Will it greatly cut back transmission? Absolutely.

Here's a quick analogy known as the urine test:
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I know you're a great gunsmith and all, and you're a valuable asset to this site. But if you believe that masks don't work, I don't know what to tell you. I'll take great care of you if you get airlifted to me.
 
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Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.
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Scientific Brief: Community Use of Cloth Masks to Control the Spread of SARS-CoV-2​



Background​

SARS-CoV-2 infection is transmitted predominately by respiratory droplets generated when people cough, sneeze, sing, talk, or breathe. CDC recommends community use of masks, specifically non-valved multi-layer cloth masks, to prevent transmission of SARS-CoV-2. Masks are primarily intended to reduce the emission of virus-laden droplets (“source control”), which is especially relevant for asymptomatic or presymptomatic infected wearers who feel well and may be unaware of their infectiousness to others, and who are estimated to account for more than 50% of transmissions.1,2 Masks also help reduce inhalation of these droplets by the wearer (“filtration for personal protection”). The community benefit of masking for SARS-CoV-2 control is due to the combination of these effects; individual prevention benefit increases with increasing numbers of people using masks consistently and correctly.

Source Control to Block Exhaled Virus​

Multi-layer cloth masks block release of exhaled respiratory particles into the environment,3-6 along with the microorganisms these particles carry.7,8 Cloth masks not only effectively block most large droplets (i.e., 20-30 microns and larger)9 but they can also block the exhalation of fine droplets and particles (also often referred to as aerosols) smaller than 10 microns ;3,5 which increase in number with the volume of speech10-12 and specific types of phonation.13 Multi-layer cloth masks can both block up to 50-70% of these fine droplets and particles3,14 and limit the forward spread of those that are not captured.5,6,15,16 Upwards of 80% blockage has been achieved in human experiments that have measured blocking of all respiratory droplets,4 with cloth masks in some studies performing on par with surgical masks as barriers for source control.3,9,14

Filtration for Personal Protection​

Studies demonstrate that cloth mask materials can also reduce wearers’ exposure to infectious droplets through filtration, including filtration of fine droplets and particles less than 10 microns. The relative filtration effectiveness of various masks has varied widely across studies, in large part due to variation in experimental design and particle sizes analyzed. Multiple layers of cloth with higher thread counts have demonstrated superior performance compared to single layers of cloth with lower thread counts, in some cases filtering nearly 50% of fine particles less than 1 micron .14,17-29 Some materials (e.g., polypropylene) may enhance filtering effectiveness by generating triboelectric charge (a form of static electricity) that enhances capture of charged particles18,30 while others (e.g., silk) may help repel moist droplets31 and reduce fabric wetting and thus maintain breathability and comfort.

Human Studies of Masking and SARS-CoV-2 Transmission​

Data regarding the “real-world” effectiveness of community masking are limited to observational and epidemiological studies.
  • An investigation of a high-exposure event, in which 2 symptomatically ill hair stylists interacted for an average of 15 minutes with each of 139 clients during an 8-day period, found that none of the 67 clients who subsequently consented to an interview and testing developed infection. The stylists and all clients universally wore masks in the salon as required by local ordinance and company policy at the time.32
  • In a study of 124 Beijing households with > 1 laboratory-confirmed case of SARS-CoV-2 infection, mask use by the index patient and family contacts before the index patient developed symptoms reduced secondary transmission within the households by 79%.33
  • A retrospective case-control study from Thailand documented that, among more than 1,000 persons interviewed as part of contact tracing investigations, those who reported having always worn a mask during high-risk exposures experienced a greater than 70% reduced risk of acquiring infection compared with persons who did not wear masks under these circumstances.34
  • A study of an outbreak aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt, an environment notable for congregate living quarters and close working environments, found that use of face coverings on-board was associated with a 70% reduced risk.35
  • Investigations involving infected passengers aboard flights longer than 10 hours strongly suggest that masking prevented in-flight transmissions, as demonstrated by the absence of infection developing in other passengers and crew in the 14 days following exposure.36,37
Seven studies have confirmed the benefit of universal masking in community level analyses: in a unified hospital system,38 a German city,39 a U.S. state,40 a panel of 15 U.S. states and Washington, D.C.,41,42 as well as both Canada43 and the U.S.44 nationally. Each analysis demonstrated that, following directives from organizational and political leadership for universal masking, new infections fell significantly. Two of these studies42,44 and an additional analysis of data from 200 countries that included the U.S.45 also demonstrated reductions in mortality. An economic analysis using U.S. data found that, given these effects, increasing universal masking by 15% could prevent the need for lockdowns and reduce associated losses of up to $1 trillion or about 5% of gross domestic product.42

Conclusions​

Experimental and epidemiological data support community masking to reduce the spread of SARS-CoV-2. The prevention benefit of masking is derived from the combination of source control and personal protection for the mask wearer. The relationship between source control and personal protection is likely complementary and possibly synergistic14, so that individual benefit increases with increasing community mask use. Further research is needed to expand the evidence base for the protective effect of cloth masks and in particular to identify the combinations of materials that maximize both their blocking and filtering effectiveness, as well as fit, comfort, durability, and consumer appeal. Adopting universal masking policies can help avert future lockdowns, especially if combined with other non-pharmaceutical interventions such as social distancing, hand hygiene, and adequate ventilation.

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So riddle me this, if a mask works, why are health care workers first in line to receive the vaccine?
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Because of exposure time. I'm in contact a whole lot more than others are. Thus, higher risk category. I have to remove my mask to eat and drink. One little time I don't wash my hands correctly or rub my eyes, and I'm out. image0 (1).jpeg

I know you were thinking you had a "gotcha" moment, but it probably didn't work out like you planned. Let me know if you'd like to continue getting dunked on. I've been at this internet thing and healthcare thing for a while.

I've been putting younger and younger people in bags lately, so I apologize if I'm a little gruff. It's just now starting to make me a little angry when I see stuff like this. It's interesting no one ever takes me up on that tour offer.
 
If your mask will filter to 60 nanometers you are gtg, as long as a perfect seal is maintained. Even the famous n95 filters only 99.8% of particles of 100 nm(dry particles, or non oily). However a mask does limit the distance that respiratory droplets can travel when you cough or sneeze, typical droplet is 5-10 micrometers. Wear it knowing you MAY prevent a transmission to someone else, but don't fall into believing it will protect your respiratory system. Wash your hands, stay away from symptomatic individuals, get a vaccination if you are health compromised. Take a high quality zinc supplement(after checking with your doctor). Wash your hands, avoid mask to mouth,nose,eye hand contact.(I contracted rabies from hand to eye).
 
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Because of exposure time. I'm in contact a whole lot more than others are. Thus, higher risk category. I have to remove my mask to eat and drink. One little time I don't wash my hands correctly or rub my eyes, and I'm out. View attachment 1221280

I know you were thinking you had a "gotcha" moment, but it probably didn't work out like you planned. Let me know if you'd like to continue getting dunked on. I've been at this internet thing and healthcare thing for a while.

I've been putting younger and younger people in bags lately, so I apologize if I'm a little gruff. It's just now starting to make me a little angry when I see stuff like this. It's interesting no one ever takes me up on that tour offer.
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Admittedly my response was about as valid as your peed on analogy. Lots of misinformation on both sides of the ball. Very unfortunate that one side has exploited this virus for political gain instead of putting Americans health and safety first. Isn't it amazing that the AMA has now stated that hydroxychlorocline is safe and may have a positive effect when used to treat Covid? When Trump touted is use he was going to kill millions of people. So I'm out of this discussion. Your the expert. I'm just a guy that takes in all the info, not only what one side says.
 
First, I am happy to hear Butch is doing much better. What I don't understand is there is no "standard" for what constitutes a "mask" when local authorities mandate masks. Some studies show the thin gator type masks will actually cause the nasal droplets to mist which allows the bacteria to travel much further than if not wearing a mask. If masks are truly crucial to the spread, why are there no "approved" masks designated? The only two things that are factual about the virus is that it came from Red China, and when I wear a mask my nose runs profusely and have difficulty breathing due to asthma.
 
timeout said:
Admittedly my response was about as valid as your peed on analogy. Lots of misinformation on both sides of the ball. Very unfortunate that one side has exploited this virus for political gain instead of putting Americans health and safety first. Isn't it amazing that the AMA has now stated that hydroxychlorocline is safe and may have a positive effect when used to treat Covid? When Trump touted is use he was going to kill millions of people. So I'm out of this discussion. Your the expert. I'm just a guy that takes in all the info, not only what one side says.
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No, the analogy is sound. The pee is actually droplets. The pants are masks. Easy stuff.
Hope this helps.
 
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