Muzzle brake question

[Orr89rocz]

Ultradyne Apollo max

 

[SKWERLZ]

MBM 3 and 4 port beasts are what I typically have. They're some of the best at reducing recoil. I can spot shots on 25x with my 223/6 Creed/7-300 Win Mag from 100 yards all the way out.

Just bought an APA little bastard for a 6 BRA and it seems to do very well also.

I actually have a MBM on my 6BRA.

 

[J.d. Popkes]

The time of flight is so short inside of 400 yards that any rifle movement will make shots tough to spot. A brake can only do so much and doesnt affect the primary recoil pulse (F=MA) anyway. Another, and perhaps more fruitful solution, would be to add weight to the rifle. A few pounds in the right location will help a lot if its an option for you.

It’s hard to make an apples/apples comparison, my rifles are probably heavy, and they are in chassis set up to fit me, etc.

In my opinion if you can’t return to zero quick enough to see splashes or hits at 400 you got bigger problems and precision will suffer.

At 100 yds, 50x, I’m still looking within a few inches of the poa after the shot. Took a ton of time and money for me to figure out that if you’re getting pushed around or gotta bipod hopping up/right/left, you’re whizzing in the wind. I’m a slow learner but I know that much for sure.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

Honestly, there are differences but what you can measure vs what you can feel...not as much so. There's a lot that goes into a brake that doesn't meet the eye but the fat bastard is pretty good. Good enough that actually feeling the difference between it and anything else out there is the arguable part. I kinda doubt you'll truly notice much improvement over it with anything you get. It's easier to measure the small differences in most similarly designed brakes than it is to feel it. There are some key factors but the fat bastard meets them. The other factors get really small.

I used to do a ton of brakes every year, designed my own and tested several. I wouldn't spend a lot trying to beat a fat bastard. There are others that are just as good and maybe slightly better but if ya can't feel it, but it costs ya money to find that out...where do ya stop then? I primarily tested designs for fast target acquisition, in search of the perfect mousetrap. What I found was that there are a lot of expensive gimmicks that look cool but offer less, equal or only very small advantages over some VERY simple but well thought out designs. Yeah, it's kinda rocket science but it's the simplest possible form and some old rules still apply. First and foremost if first baffle location and area but there's a lot of variables with case capacity and muzzle pressure...yada yada.

 

[Steve Donlon]

What has everyone found to be the most effective muzzle brake? I’ve tried the Apa fat bastard. Is there anything better? Just having trouble spotting shots at 400 past that it works good

I wasn't impressed with the APA but all my brakes need to come off and on easy for cleaning and cleaning the bore and muzzle. I have a couple of Ultraryne Pegasus models that work great and come off and are easy to put back on. Also the MPA DN5 is good. And the ACE model. Sort of tanker types. But, like has been pointed out, it takes more than a good muzzle brake to stay in target, but it does help. Also those rifles have heavy varmint profile barrels on them and I tried to put a smaller muzzle brake on one and it through off the harmonics and it would not shoot. Then I put a heavier tanker model on and it came to life. So be aware that muzzle brakes can effect the harmonics. I had to try a few.

 

[Longranger81]

I ended up going with the new ace and it is way better than the apa. I appreciate all the reply’s and info

 

[Steve Donlon]

I ended up going with the new ace and it is way better than the apa. I appreciate all the reply’s and info

Good choice. They go on and off easy and are tunable.