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Moly Bullets Still In Strong Use?

Hello! If you saw my last post you would have read that I have been out of the reloading/shooting loop for a while (about 11-years....kids not prison...). In the past, I used a lot of moly-coated bullets. What is the feeling on moly today? Do more or less people use them then about 10-years ago?

Thanks!

Andy
 
From what I gather reading posts here, moly has lost favor with many and hBN is the flavor of the day. Take a look at this article (if the link works)
http://www.6mmbr.com/bulletcoating.html

Not a moly user myself (nor any coating) but did happen into some DTACS - Moly and hBN coated, separate boxes not double coated, lol. Interested to try them out, but will remove the moly for sure.

Hope this helps.
 
i still moly most all my jacketed rifle bullets, tho i do HBN my 1000yd bullets....

moly works but is work.

i have not seen enough on HBN to have a real opinion, i have very low round count on my 1000yd rifle..so no real info.
 
I am using moly and starting the HBN as I dont have much moly left.There have been alot of articles on hbn and David Tubb uses a blend of hbn and tungsten disulfide which he sells or he will coat them for a minimal cost.
 
I've been using Molly for over 20 yrs on my rifle bullets. I have my own opinion on whether it's good or bad, prolongs barrel life etc, I'm still using it so that says something. I've never tried hbn but know some shooters who do use it. Seems the results between the two are about equal.
 
I am still using the can of moly I bought from Midway about 8 years ago, but only in one caliber. I have a factory Savage LRPV .223 with 2,600 pills down the pipe, all moly coated. I wanted to keep this barrel on for factory competition rules, and make it last as long as possible. It doesn't shoot like it did 6 yrs ago, but is still competitive. My smith checked the bore with his scope, and said it looks good, just a little fire cracking. Tried HBN, saw no difference.
 
Like tenring^^ Ive been using it since the early 80s in 2 of my 223 varmint rigs as I run 5-8k rounds a year on p-dogs alone. My 2nd barrel in one of them has over 4k through it, still shooting under an inch @ 100yds. I have a borescope and check them regularly & sure it has firecracking, but still going strong. The 1st barrel from 1985 finally gave up the ghost in 2010 after many thousands of rounds.
HBN is the new wave and has been for a while. Moly is not a clean job when you do it yourself.
There are those who like & those who don't.
I will also say don't fall for all the BS you hear on the moly myths.
 
I agree with 5spd completely. I've been using it for close to 20 years. Prairie dog Rifles, Ground Hog Rifles, Coyote Rifles and target Rifles. My Borescope tells me That I haven't had a problem. One .223 AI has over 10K rounds thru it and still shoots under an inch.. It took a while, but I learned how to Moly bullets without it getting messy. Would really hate to have to use uncoated bullets. Many times I can shoot between 350 and 400 rounds without any need for cleaning.... I lube the bolt and lugs, clean when I need to....
 
How about the manufacturers? Are they still supplying a good variety of moly coated bullets? I never have coated bullets myself - I always bought them pre-coated like the Sierra Blitzkings. Are the bullet companies still putting out a good selection of coated bullets?

Thanks!!

Andy
 
I have been using moly for 12years on .223., 308, 6br, 260 and 6.5-284. I think it prolongs barrel life and make barrel cleaning easier.
 
I have been using Molly for years and with the new water molly application process it deserves a second look from those who have switched. The new process is great. I definitely can attest to it extending barrel life especially when combined with the use of Ball powder. I have a 243 with over 4000 rounds that will still shoot under i in. at 100 yds.
 

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My gunsmith (also a multiple world-record holder) strongly dislikes moly and disuades me from the use of such. I got hooked on it in the mid 80's and for the barrels that like it (most), I would not do without. I have not used the other products - see no reason to change when something continues to work so well. When I run out of moly (if that day ever comes while I am still living), I'll try the other products and give 'em a whirl. I know plenty of others who share my sentiments - and almost as many that don't..... Not a whole lot different than last time you used it.
 
searcher said:
My gunsmith (also a multiple world-record holder) strongly dislikes moly and disuades me from the use of such.

My vote is with the Gunsmith.
 
Does the gunsmith also state to scrub the heck out of the tube?

When I was using molly I would use corncob media with molly in it. Then just run the bullets for an hour or so and I got great coverage.

I tried that with hbn and they did not feel as slippery as when just impact plating then and rubbing off the extra. So far in every rifle I have tried hbn in the muzzle velocity has increased.

I have only tried hbn in one handgun and did not check speed. I am still shooting the Mollie bullets in my hand guns.
 
Searcher,

Did the gunsmith say why he did not like moly? Was there something that he saw happening that might have been a problem?

Thank you!

Andy
 
It is reported ( in various articles on this site) that Moly builds up on itself, holds moisture, and is hard to remove. Whether this is true, I do not know....I use Danzac (WS2). There is a reason Berger dropped their Moly coated bullet line. From what I have heard and read, I would steer clear of it and go to HBN if I ever run out of Danzac.
 
moly is a bbl treatment applied by shooting coated bullets.
it allows a bbl to shoot the same, longer.
it requires a different cleaning process.
it works.....but it will not make a poor rifle shoot better.
it leads to more carbon build up, and requires a carbon removing step in your cleaning.
if your case is already full...you may not be able to use moly as it need a tad more powder to get to your sweet spot.
 
A friend used moly bullets in his competition AR-15 for cross-course highpower, and shot over 2,000 rounds without cleaning anything. He usually shot a 787/800. If you use moly, clean after each session with 4-5 strokes of bristle brush coated with whatever solvent, and 4-5 patches of same solvent, like Shooter's Choice or Hoppe's 9. Run a couple of dry patches through, and put it up. When the bore is due for a more complete cleaning, get after it with BoreTech copper solvent until it's clean, then any solvent, again such as BoreTech carbon solvent, BoreTech Eliminator, or Hoppe's. I also sometimes use Boron but I have not seen anyone do the same as my friend did with his high-power competition rifle, but using boron. Some rifles have a predictable zero on the first shot after cleaning, when doing as mentioned above. That's the advantage to me, when hunting. But if you check cold-bore zero, you know what's going to happen no matter whether or with what you coat your bullets. After a more thorough cleaning regimen, you will have to wait 7-12 shots for the accuracy to settle down. Last one I cleaned, the first 6 shots were all over creation, and the next six were in 0.5". Just noted 'stool' post, and agree.
 
A lot of people posting in this forum have set and currently hold records, and a lot of posters have not, the issue is unless you have to blow your own horn in every post, you can't tell who is Very knowledgeable vs likes to shoot. When some one says I have heard it is not good, there is no context around the statement which defines the question being asked. I shoot in long range competition, but do not use Molly. Mainly because of the course of fire and cleaning regiment. However I shoot Molly in everything else and it is great. And the new Molly water process makes it even greater and easier, no special equipment required, just Molly and water. I can not speak to other coatings as it would only be hear say. If you do not have personal experience to share with the subject being discussed, have heard, or I tried it on time but,,,,,,,,,. It does not positively contribute to the discussion. Just trying to help reply to the original question. Enough of a rant. :'( sorry
 

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