Mildot vs. Mildot Ballistic Plex

[Muelly]

New to the forum. Just getting into long range shooting and received a M700 5R milspec for my birthday from my wife. Yes, she's a hell of a woman. Anyway, the rifle will be used for hunting and target shooting. I like the mildots plus hold overs on the Burris MD Ballistic plex. I think it would achieve both my objectives. Any opinions or experience with this particular reticle vs a mildot alone. Thanks.

 

[cmillard]

your wife needs to have a sitdown with my wife!

 

[whiskey08]

congrats, I wouldnt go with mil dot, dot sometimes obstructs view of target, I like the mil hash mark style, i think its more precise when rangeing targets and the small .5 hash between the mil marks help to be more accurate. As far as a preset ballistic type scope, i wouldnt touch it, its made for a specific hypothetical cartridge that you dont have. So any thing that you use wont match thier hypothetical trajectory. Much better off figuring out your dope for your gun and ammo, than trying to use a 70% solution, gl

 

[Muelly]

Thanks Whiskey. Are you talking about the tactical milling retical? Is that just with Leupold scopes or are there others similar styles out there?

 

[tiny68]

Some Mil-Dot scopes have open dots that do not block the view of the target. I looked in a NightForce that have open circles. Don't know about other scopes. But, there are a lot of other reticles that accomplish a similar goal. Luck in your choice. Tim

 

[whiskey08]

lots of different scopes with mildots, I am talking about a tactical type scope that has mil reticle to guestimate range, and one with external windage and elevation knobs. Once you know the range you dial it in and shoot. I have the nightforce with clear circles but wished i had the one with hash marks just cause there is one at the .5 mark. when ranging targets the more you mil is broken down the more accurate you'll be. Just a couple of tenths error in measuring size of target and you'll easily miss. Tasco, leuopold, nightforce, sightron, etc.

 

[sscoyote]

I had a 6-24x with the Burris BMD reticle on a 6AI coyote rifle and i thought it was a fine reticle for longer range shooting--until the wind starts blowing. I prefer ballistic reticles with some windage applications for longer range game shooting such as the Leupold Varmint Hunter's reticle or the Rapid Reticles. Zeiss makes their versions also. Even Nightforce now offers a ballistic tree-style reticle. U just have to match trajectory to reticle subtension at some predetermined magnification.

 

[Muelly]

Thanks guys. Natchez has a pretty good deal on a Burris XTR (3.5-12x50) with mildots for $640. I can't afford a nightforce, USO, etc. but I don't want a Tasco either.

 

[brian427cobra]

I'm not to argue MilRad V MOA V IPHY, the important thing I need to impress upon you is the knobs need to match the reticle, Milrad reticle with .1mrad knobs(sometimes mistakenly marked 1cm) is very important, makes corrections on missed shots a breeze, say your shooting steel at 800 yards, you dial in 7.2 mils, you see a dirt splash instead of a hit on steel, using the reticle you see you hit .5 mils low, dial a half a mil and send another 175smk for a hit. Now lets say instead you bought a mildot scope with 1/4 moa knobs, same target, 25.0 moa dialed on the scope, you see a half mil miss, what is your correction, for a second round hit, doing conversions sucks. I would look for a used Super Sniper 10x HD, or save your pennies for a NSX with MLR reticle with .1mrad knobs, yes I'm a all mils kinda guy, there universal, easy to use, but don't try a give a mil a value, because 1 mil is 1/1000 of any unit of measurement on the planet, 1 lightyear at 1000 lightyears, 1 mile at 1000 miles, and the reason the knobs are incorrectly marked is because 1 meter at 1000 meters, and .1 mil is 1 cm at 100 meters, BUT MiLRaDs ARE NOT METRIC!

 

[whiskey08]

Brian

if you dialed in a .5 mil then you missed again? .5 mils at 800 isnt the same as .5 mils at 1k, roughly speaking a mil at 800yrds is 28"s, a mil at 1000 yds is 36"s. So you have to factor in the conversion for 800yrds. With a moa turret if i hit a foot low at 800, i just dial in 1.5 moa or hold over 12 inches and im there.

 

[whiskey08]

Brian,

excuse my non mathemagician infantry mind, but you were correct. A mil at 800 is 28"s. If you looked thru ur scope and hit .5 mil low that would equal 14"s. a mil click is 1/10 which would equal 2.8"s at 800 X 5 clicks would equal 14 inches. simple!