mausingfield action?

[hogpatrol]

 

[LHSmith]

Clearly we have another 1000$ plus vise owner that's upset.

If I'm upset, it's because a fellow shooter chooses to discourage participation in a competitive shooting discipline that's been around for 69 years.

 

[LHSmith]

FWIW 1/-High end bi-pods cost upwards of $600.
2/ Some of the best Short Range shooters in Benchrest still use the same Hart rest and Protektor bag that they started with decades ago. A $1000 rest is NOT a prerequisite to win. What is takes to win is superior condition reading skills and knowing how to select the best equipment (barrels & bullets). Unless you're immortal, these skills only come through practice and shooting as many matches as you can.
3/ Many BR sanctioned clubs offer a factory class @ 100, 200, and a few 300 yd to shoot for score. Rarely are shooters turned away if they shoot bolt action in single shot mode. It is a great place to learn the accuracy game that can be applied to other disciplines.

 

[chevytruck_83]

I'm out sir. I don't mean to discourage anyone from any discipline. I was kidding with the guy for saying my weapon of choice isn't accurate enough and the targets used are play people. I enjoyed his statements and thought it would be fun to kid back. If I upset you I'm sorry. Guess I won't kid next time.

 

[LHSmith]

Use the emocons next time. They make a world of difference in communicating ones intent. Say what you mean.....mean what you say. Words mean things....at least they did in my generation.

 

[Changeling]

So, your are a machinest and understand how simple that they are. A piece of pipe and a rod? Makes them purty and that's about it?

Big Blue, did you know that Kelbly offered a blade ejector? We'll see if they survive. I doubt that they are selling very many.

NO, I'm definitely not a machinist, sharpening a knife is about my top level of machining expertise!
I've talked to some (very good ones) about making/designing actions and what I said was from their conversations/answers.

When I said a piece of pipe and a rod, I also said in proper "grade and proportions". Meaning the good stuff, NOT iron pipe and a piece of rebar. If you really look at the action (700) they are not extremely difficult to make (what I was told), and now believe. They didn't imply it was easy, but very doable.

For doing all this at a commercial level, once you had a 700 clone designed you would have to get programs written to fabricate it by CNC or whatever method if it was to be a for sale commercial action to the public. Simply having machinists make them would not work because of many obstacles.

 

[butchlambert]

NO, I'm definitely not a machinist, sharpening a knife is about my top level of machining expertise!
I've talked to some (very good ones) about making/designing actions and what I said was from their conversations/answers.

When I said a piece of pipe and a rod, I also said in proper "grade and proportions". Meaning the good stuff, NOT iron pipe and a piece of rebar. If you really look at the action (700) they are not extremely difficult to make (what I was told), and now believe. They didn't imply it was easy, but very doable.

For doing all this at a commercial level, once you had a 700 clone designed you would have to get programs written to fabricate it by CNC or whatever method if it was to be a for sale commercial action to the public. Simply having machinists make them would not work because of many obstacles.

You're learning, slowly, but you can get there. Being one of those cracker jack machinest is not the end all-know all either. He would also need to understand why some things are done, bolt timing and extraction comes to mind. All of this is predicated on using the correct materials and heat treat.

Quote-Simply having machinists make them would not work because of many obstacles. What are the obstacles? Also-From what you were told?
Not trying to jump your case, but saying it is not as easy as it seems. If so a multitude of people would be making them.

 

[montana_native]

I have a Mausingfield. I am a CRF junkie. I like being able to launch spent brass into the next county, or plop it into my off hand depending on how I cycle the bolt. I like that the bolt stop doesn't beat up the bolt lug during aggressive cycling. I like the amount of purchase the extractor has on the rim of the case. I like that the necks of my brass don't get dented from being smacked into the side of the receiver from the ejector once the brass clears the chamber.

That being said, the Mausingfield is a very nice action. All of the parts are beautifully machined and it is a very burly action. The scope rail's engagement with the receiver is very solid and does allow for variations in the amount of cant while maintaining the rigidity of an action with an integral rail. I don't have an opinion on the toroidal lugs.

The action is very smooth and very fast. I am not a very serious "tactical competition" shooter, but the bolt can be cycled efficiently in a variety of shooter positions. I think as these competitions become more and more geared toward awkward shooting positions it might really begin to shine. Mine is the "105/5" cocking option and it picks up the round from the magazine and the bolt nearly falls into battery. The bolt knob is a hideous thing, but it works great for me because I lift the bolt with my index finger while making a loose fist and then close it with my thumb. Form follows function here I guess. This action is really fun to cycle.

All that said, my $550 FN SPR actions offer many of the same features...with a far better safety in my opinion.

I imagine that this type of an action doesn't lend itself to being a Benchrest accuracy type action. The bolt doesn't fit snug in the raceway like a Deviant. I've not been able to get mine to consistently shoot under about 0.35 MOA. But is is almost always under 0.6 MOA. I do think it has a niche market for the PRS guys.

I think I was oversold on it a bit and bought into the hype. I was really excited to see a CRF custom action. I don't regret the purchase, however. There are just some features I won't use; like the interchangeable bolt head and the barrel nut option.

This is all just my $0.02. I'm pretty much a nobody.

 

[LHSmith]

I have a Mausingfield. I am a CRF junkie. I like being able to launch spent brass into the next county, or plop it into my off hand depending on how I cycle the bolt. I like that the bolt stop doesn't beat up the bolt lug during aggressive cycling. I like the amount of purchase the extractor has on the rim of the case. I like that the necks of my brass don't get dented from being smacked into the side of the receiver from the ejector once the brass clears the chamber.

That being said, the Mausingfield is a very nice action. All of the parts are beautifully machined and it is a very burly action. The scope rail's engagement with the receiver is very solid and does allow for variations in the amount of cant while maintaining the rigidity of an action with an integral rail. I don't have an opinion on the toroidal lugs.

The action is very smooth and very fast. I am not a very serious "tactical competition" shooter, but the bolt can be cycled efficiently in a variety of shooter positions. I think as these competitions become more and more geared toward awkward shooting positions it might really begin to shine. Mine is the "105/5" cocking option and it picks up the round from the magazine and the bolt nearly falls into battery. The bolt knob is a hideous thing, but it works great for me because I lift the bolt with my index finger while making a loose fist and then close it with my thumb. Form follows function here I guess. This action is really fun to cycle.

All that said, my $550 FN SPR actions offer many of the same features...with a far better safety in my opinion.

I imagine that this type of an action doesn't lend itself to being a Benchrest accuracy type action. The bolt doesn't fit snug in the raceway like a Deviant. I've not been able to get mine to consistently shoot under about 0.35 MOA. But is is almost always under 0.6 MOA. I do think it has a niche market for the PRS guys.

I think I was oversold on it a bit and bought into the hype. I was really excited to see a CRF custom action. I don't regret the purchase, however. There are just some features I won't use; like the interchangeable bolt head and the barrel nut option.

This is all just my $0.02. I'm pretty much a nobody.

I like your honesty.