Match chamber vs standard chamber?

[PWNolan]

Maybe so, but seams to be a market for it for, and manufacturers/ gunsmiths offer different chambers for a reason.

I'd prefer a match chamber in a factory barrel as long as it feeds ok from the mag (even though I usually single load). Whether or not I'd pay someone to put a match chamber in a existing factory barrel kind of depends.

I have two factory rifles/barrels with match chambers that shoot really well. I have another sporter with a match chamber that shoots well but not like the first two. I have two other rifles with CIP chambers (T1X and 452 American) that shoot better than the previous one but not quite as well as the first two. I have a sixth factory rifle with a match chamber that doesn't shoot as well as any of the previously mentioned (and I still haven't figured out why, it slugs well etc). So for me a match chamber is just a small piece of the puzzle and it's not necessarily a must have when I consider purchasing a rifle

As far as paying someone to add a match chamber. I wouldn't pay anyone to rechamber the Tikka or CZ I previously mentioned. They shoot too well as is. If I was going to do anything it would be a complete rebarrel with a Shilen but that's not going to happen

I do have a 541X that I bought cheap years ago because the stock was cracked and the rear sight was missing. It didn't shoot like I hoped it would. So it sat for awhile until I finally sent it to Brian Voelker to rework. It's one of best shooters I own. However, he did a lot more to it that just rechambering it. He threaded the action and barrel, rechambered, cut muzzle on tight spot and recrowned etc

 

[TRSR8]

Maybe so, but seams to be a market for it for, and manufacturers/ gunsmiths offer different chambers for a reason.

Sure there is, mostly from guys that believe what they read on internet forums.
Gunsmiths put match chambers, primarily on match barrels.
There are few factory barrels worth it as a maybe……very few.
In the end, your barrel, your money.

 

[Thomasconnor]

I have found match chambers in repeaters to be highly over-rated and could easily be a detriment regarding functioning and the resulting ammunition limitations...Tom

 

[dontpanic]

Is there really that much difference? I have a CZ Precision Trainer and it has the standard chamber. I heard today that someone can modify it and make it a match chamber. My rifle shoots very good the way it is. Am I going to notice that much better accuracy vs what I am getting now? If I was going to spend the money I'd really rather have a match grade barrel with a match chamber.

Do you have the trainer with the 24" barrel? Those are known to be good shooting barrels. Not too picky with ammo and just good shooters. Mine has been great and I have a Lilja and 16.5" MTR.

 

[Pyscodog]

Mines the 20" barrel. Manners stock.

 

[BCR1]

I have found match chambers in repeaters to be highly over-rated and could easily be a detriment regarding functioning and the resulting ammunition limitations...Tom

Are you saying a Kidd 10/22 barrel is a waste of money?

Bill

 

[PWNolan]

Are you saying a Kidd 10/22 barrel is a waste of money?

Bill

Bill, are the chambers is those Kidd barrels actually match chambers? I have two. While they're relatively short/tight for semi-autos I don't consider them to be actual match chambers like I have in my RFBR guns. Same goes for my Anschutz bolt-action repeaters. I actually included those when I mentioned factory barrels with match chambers in a previous post. While they're also fairly short/tight for repeaters I'm not sure I should refer to them as true match chambers. I think all these (KIdd & Anschutz repeaters) have more of a Bentz chamber. They have benefits of match chambers but aren't quite as tight to facilitate feeding

I do have at least two repeater bolt actions with chambers that I do consider to be true match chambers. The leade is just modified to facilitate extraction of a live round. They're still very tight and engrave the driving bands of the bullet pretty deep yet they feed rounds from a magazine. So, on one hand I disagree with Tom's comments. Oh the other hand I see his point regarding limitations on ammo. The two guns I just mentioned won't chamber CCI SV very well and they might not extract a live round of CCI either. I've only tried once and I honestly don't remember if they extracted SV or not

 

[BCR1]

Thanks Pat. I was thinking about upgrading my Feddersen barrel with a Kidd but at almost twice the price, I'll just keep what I already have.

Bill

 

[PWNolan]

Thanks Pat. I was thinking about upgrading my Feddersen barrel with a Kidd but at almost twice the price, I'll just keep what I already have.

Bill

Bill, I wasn't trying to imply that the Kidd might not be an improvement over your Fedderson barrel. There's more to a good barrel than just the chamber. That said, if you're happy with the accuracy you're getting with the Fedderson then keep shooting it and use the funds to buy some good ammo

 

[Thomasconnor]

Are you saying a Kidd 10/22 barrel is a waste of money?

Bill

No I said I have found match chambers in repeaters to be highly over-rated and could easily be a detriment regarding functioning and the resulting ammunition limitations.

One doesn't need a match chamber (whatever that is) to have a great shooting barrel.

I say "whatever that is" because we have not defined what a match chamber is. How about a semi-match chamber, or a Laney chamber, or a Bentz chamber?

I've had Lilja match chamber that was so tight the bolt was hard to close and the round had to be fired or it would not come out. I was glad to cut that off, have it chambered a lot looser, and it shot the same as it did with the PITA chamber...Tom

PS: Fedderson makes great barrels. I would not assume a Kidd will outshoot a Fedderson. I would bet there are examples of each that will outshoot the other, and vice-versa.

 

[Thomasconnor]

Another real world example, I had two Thompson Classic 22s, one standard and one with a Laney match chamber.

The rifle with the Laney chamber shot no better than the regular one. The regular one would shoot any ammo and the Laney chambered rifle would not.

This was a problem because I like to be able to use inexpensive ammo like CCI SV which doesn't like tight chambers. I have more expensive ammo but using it takes a lot of the fun out of it for me....Tom

PS: I believe match chambers are great for benchrest shooters who can leave no stone unturned if they want to be competitive.

 

[rebs]

Does a 541s custom sporter have a match chamber?

 

[PWNolan]

Does a 541s custom sporter have a match chamber?

No, not officially. Many think they're tighter/shorter than a standard 22 LR chamber. However, Remington has never confirmed it's actually a match chamber

 

[rebs]

No, not officially. Many think they're tighter/shorter than a standard 22 LR chamber. However, Remington has never confirmed it's actually a match chamber

Thank you

 

[Hi-NV Shooter]

Is there really that much difference? I have a CZ Precision Trainer and it has the standard chamber. I heard today that someone can modify it and make it a match chamber. My rifle shoots very good the way it is. Am I going to notice that much better accuracy vs what I am getting now? If I was going to spend the money I'd really rather have a match grade barrel with a match chamber.

If it shoots very good now why do something that may give you 50/50 chance of improving what you have.
FWIW I have no idea what a match chamber is. my rifles with aftermarket barrels all have custom chambers done with a Nevius reamer with engraving depth set to the AOL of what ammo I provided to my smith.
Could it be called match chambers? I do shoot them in matches, if that is all it takes to make them match chambers then the factory barreled rifles, I shot all had match chambers my point if it shoots good and you're happy what's in a name?

As I mentioned why mess with something that is already giving you very good results. you want to improve the rifle's accuracy have a new aftermarket blank chambered and put on the rifle. probably go from very good to excellent.

Lee