March 8-80x
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The owner paid to send it back. Of course I paid to send my leupold back twice. I also paid to send my latest broken leupold back. Leupold never sent me a new scope. I have seen three broken Night Forces here. They never sent a new one back either. I guess I am really missing your point.
Any scope can break or wear out. Let's face it, we adjust these things all the time over several different distances. I would assume the finer the reticles, the higher the chance of breakage.
If you prefer a different scope, I sure won't stop you from buying it!
ERIC
Any scope can break or wear out. Let's face it, we adjust these things all the time over several different distances. I would assume the finer the reticles, the higher the chance of breakage.
If you prefer a different scope, I sure won't stop you from buying it!
ERIC
falconpilot
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JRS,
If your post wasn't suggestive of Kelbly's service, why remove it? It wasn't anything personal at all against you, just trying to be fair and objective...if any wit was shown in your last post, it wasn't in your favor...
Jim
If your post wasn't suggestive of Kelbly's service, why remove it? It wasn't anything personal at all against you, just trying to be fair and objective...if any wit was shown in your last post, it wasn't in your favor...
Jim
why do most scope quality related posts end up as a squabble about warranties?
scopes that are made as well as March, S&B, NF and others do not tend to develop sudden 'faults' if they have been working flawlessly for 5 years. As such, the chance that you will end up 7 or so years later with a bum scope is low at best. If you really feel that you must have the piece of mind for life, then maybe you are not really in the market for this kind of hardware.
I dont like throwing money away, but guns, ammo and equipment are all items that perish over time. The scope is one of the few shooting related items that do last for many years. The better made, the longer they 'should' last.
Personally, i think that anyone choosing an inferior scope simply due to its longer warrenty is foolish at best.
Worst case scenario, a March lasts you 5 years and 1 day then explodes. Its cost you $1.36 per day, and thats a lot less than ammo (in my case at least). Remember, thats the worst, and highly unlikely case!!!
This post is not directed at any individual, but rather at the minset that seems to creep in to all posts like this
scopes that are made as well as March, S&B, NF and others do not tend to develop sudden 'faults' if they have been working flawlessly for 5 years. As such, the chance that you will end up 7 or so years later with a bum scope is low at best. If you really feel that you must have the piece of mind for life, then maybe you are not really in the market for this kind of hardware.
I dont like throwing money away, but guns, ammo and equipment are all items that perish over time. The scope is one of the few shooting related items that do last for many years. The better made, the longer they 'should' last.
Personally, i think that anyone choosing an inferior scope simply due to its longer warrenty is foolish at best.
Worst case scenario, a March lasts you 5 years and 1 day then explodes. Its cost you $1.36 per day, and thats a lot less than ammo (in my case at least). Remember, thats the worst, and highly unlikely case!!!
This post is not directed at any individual, but rather at the minset that seems to creep in to all posts like this
After staying on top of this thread since original post and studying scopes until my eyeballs popped out I bit the proverbial bullet and bought a March 8-80 with 3/32 dot from Kelblys last saturday. I drove out after setting up an appt. with Ian and 2 hours later walked out with the new March after tour of the facilities and a little BS session. Ian is the youngest of the family and absolutely will go the extra mile to make sure you are pleased. I can not say enough good about the Kelblys. Ian did say they are sole distributer for the world except Japan and Australia, and that Deon is making about 20-25 scopes a week. He has the new prototype 2-16 March on one of his rifles. They have no 10-60's in stock with a dot, they have 2 with MTR reticle, and I bought the last 8-80 with a dot. I have 2 NF scopes and a Schmidt and Bender but from what I have seen this March will trump them all. Cant wait to get it mounted on my new build. If you have the extra ching to buy a March you won't be disappointed.
Frank
Frank
Has the warranty policy changed? I never went with a MARCH cause a 5 year nontransferable warranty is simply unacceptable in my books for such an expensive product. I bought the S&B 12-50x56. I don't know how it compares to the MARCH but I know with just slight mirage it is very easy to pick out 7mm bullet holes at 600 yards.I also have NF and Sightron as well as a number of other german optics. The S&B is far superior to any NF I have looked through. Optically, I think the Sightron is superior to any NF NSX and at least on par with or maybe slightly better than the NF BR models. I could see the MARCH being better for target applications than the S&B if they put less coatings on the lenses but then there are other trade offs. I think that is exactly what Sightron does but it comes at other optical costs.
Kelblys used to be the world wide distributer (when i bought my 1st i got it from them even though i live in Europe) but as March has grown, they now have distributers in most of the larger countries. I suppose Ian Kelbly was partly correct in his comments, and he was selling after all.....
Canuck
You have an excellent scope in the S&B, but for MY uses (various fixed ranges, target shooting, daytime shooting only) the March is better than the S&B and a lot better than the Sightron in MY opinion (i own both others plus many more).
I actually like scopes as much as firearms, which i assure you is not good as it gets stupidly expensive. While its clear from my posts that i think March is THE best available at present, i do not think they are worth the extra cash over a NF. I paid it because i collect top scopes, but worth the extra if your on a budget, no, not in my opinion.
Canuck
You have an excellent scope in the S&B, but for MY uses (various fixed ranges, target shooting, daytime shooting only) the March is better than the S&B and a lot better than the Sightron in MY opinion (i own both others plus many more).
I actually like scopes as much as firearms, which i assure you is not good as it gets stupidly expensive. While its clear from my posts that i think March is THE best available at present, i do not think they are worth the extra cash over a NF. I paid it because i collect top scopes, but worth the extra if your on a budget, no, not in my opinion.
pfinney,
I will admit the MARCH is clearer at the edges. For the shooting we engage in, the sharpness at the edges means nothing. If I were a professional photographer however, it would mean the difference of selling that photo for mega bucks, or a paltry amount of money. I suppose another way I look at this is the resale value. Without a transferable warranty, the price of the MARCH scope would have to be reduced considerability. I honestly believe the LEUPOLD'S hold a pretty good value due in part to the warranty. Granted they have had their problems at times, but stand behind their products no matter how many times it has changed hands. When we are talking about a scope that is extremely well made and also a long and complicated process to build, (MARCH), any repair not the fault of DEON is going to be a very expensive repair.
A modification to my above statement: I have been informed that KELBLY'S is the banner under which the other distributors work. That said, out of respect for the KELBLY'S, I retract that earlier statement.
I will admit the MARCH is clearer at the edges. For the shooting we engage in, the sharpness at the edges means nothing. If I were a professional photographer however, it would mean the difference of selling that photo for mega bucks, or a paltry amount of money. I suppose another way I look at this is the resale value. Without a transferable warranty, the price of the MARCH scope would have to be reduced considerability. I honestly believe the LEUPOLD'S hold a pretty good value due in part to the warranty. Granted they have had their problems at times, but stand behind their products no matter how many times it has changed hands. When we are talking about a scope that is extremely well made and also a long and complicated process to build, (MARCH), any repair not the fault of DEON is going to be a very expensive repair.
A modification to my above statement: I have been informed that KELBLY'S is the banner under which the other distributors work. That said, out of respect for the KELBLY'S, I retract that earlier statement.
Happy shooting!
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