Looking for a new caliber.

[JRS]

NORMA makes some great 156 grain hunting bullets

The old benchmark of weight, diameter and energy, die hard.

 

[hogpatrol]

Ok. That makes sense, as they make some very heavy for caliber bullets and cater to the "really" big game market...like cape buffalo and shit. I didn't look at the price but I bet they're not priced like most everything else. None of their bullets are.

I built a .416 Rem Mag for a guy a few years back that he said liked them. It was a switch barrel, .338 Win Mag/.416 Rem Mag. He has taken it to Africa, I do believe.

I found a couple of pics. It was a nice rifle.

Beautiful rifle. Yes, the Woodleighs are popular with the Dark Continent hunters, especially for DG.

 

[JRS]

Do we need a 577 Nitro Express to kill DG in Africa, or a 577 cubic inch engine to make 700+ horsepower? Absolutely not.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

Ok. That makes sense, as they make some very heavy for caliber bullets and cater to the "really" big game market...like cape buffalo and shit. I didn't look at the price but I bet they're not priced like most everything else. None of their bullets are.

I built a .416 Rem Mag for a guy a few years back that he said liked them. It was a switch barrel, .338 Win Mag/.416 Rem Mag. He has taken it to Africa, I do believe.

I found a couple of pics. It was a nice rifle.

He liked big guns! I also built him a .338 Lapua.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

Do we need a 577 Nitro Express to kill DG in Africa, or a 577 cubic inch engine to make 700+ horsepower? Absolutely not.

Yes, definitely, to the 577 CID! The only replacement for cubic inches, is cubic $$dollar$$.

 

[BenPerfected]

Do we need a 577 Nitro Express to kill DG in Africa, or a 577 cubic inch engine to make 700+ horsepower? Absolutely not.

I agree, you really only need about 500 CI to make 700 HP

 

[IdahoSharpshooter]

OK Ben,

we won't talk about a 5.8L Hellcat or Demon then.

we won't talk about my 10-Bore SxS DR or 550 Gibbs either.

 

[JRS]

Yes, definitely, to the 577 CID! The only replacement for cubic inches, is cubic $$dollar$$.

The 231 cubic inch flat six Porsche engine makes 700+ hp, and 553 LB-FT of torque 0-60 in 2.7 seconds

Rear engine fury.

 

[GSPV]

The 231 cubic inch flat six Porsche engine makes 700+ hp, and 553 LB-FT of torque 0-60 in 2.7 seconds

Rear engine fury.

How much boost?

 

[JRS]

How much boost?

Factory set, whatever it is. You can always increase it There is replacement, for displacement. Shawn Ramey's Civic with the little B18 (110 CI 4 banger) ran a 7.956, which is approaching the time of the 500 inch Pro-Stock class

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

Factory set, whatever it is. You can always increase it There is replacement, for displacement.

It is impressive how efficient the new, small engines in today's cars are in terms of making hp. But your example makes my point...It took money to replace those cubic inches. One, in the form of it being a Porche and the other by it needing a turbo to do it. All else equal, if you had a 500 cid Porche with a turbo, it would likely make a lot more hp and torque. I spent several years building racing engines. Worked on everything from street engines to stock car, drag cars, Indy car(those are some bad little dudes!) and Bonnieville salt flat cars....Pulling trucks and tractors, drag boats..You name it. There are no free rides, but yes, technology has made huge improvements in efficiency. Thing is, most all of the tech that applies to one make can be carried over to another one that has more cubic inches. Then where are we?

Bullet design and firearms in general haven't changed much, by comparison.

 

[JRS]

It is impressive how efficient the new, small engines in today's cars are in terms of making hp. But your example makes my point...It took money to replace those cubic inches. One, in the form of it being a Porche and the other by it needing a turbo to do it. All else equal, if you had a 500 cid Porche with a turbo, it would likely make a lot more hp and torque. I spent several years building racing engines. Worked on everything from street engines to stock car, drag cars, Indy car(those are some bad little dudes!) and Bonnieville salt flat cars....Pulling trucks and tractors, drag boats..You name it. There are no free rides, but yes, technology has made huge improvements in efficiency. Thing is, most all of the tech that applies to one make can be carried over to another one that has more cubic inches. Then where are we?

Bullet design and firearms in general haven't changed much, by comparison.

Actually, if you look at something like the Hellcat Demon, it's supercharged. Technology has moved us a long, long way. The Porsche price tag comes with fit & finish, quality of components, performance and German labor.

Edit: Thinking back a year or two the Honda B16 (NA) produced more horsepower per cubic inch than any other production automobile engine made. I have my eye on a nicely tweaked 2012 Boss 302 right now. My wife seems to think it's impracticle

The "big boomers" used to rule the long range BR game. Not so much, today.

 

[Nature Boy]

.308

110g Vmax, 47g of Benchmark, 3,100 fps. Recoil between .223 and .308. Vaporizes pdogs

180g Nosler BT, 40g of Varget. Takes any medium to big game you care to hunt

Most versatile hunting cartridge IMHO

 

[allen529]

Keith Weil @ KWPrecision has a sharp 6.5x47 reamer waiting to chamber your barrel.

If youre gonna go custom action call him and talk to him. He's a member here and does excellent work with realistic and honest turn around times.

Allen

 

[Tommie]

23 caliber.....

Beat me to it AGAIN!

 

[snert]

Beat me to it AGAIN!

He said what caliber...so i thought something new and mo' better might do it.

 

[Westhunder]

Well fellas. I made my mind up...
Kinda.... going to do multiple barrels, on custom action. Parent case for all future work is going to be 47 lapua. 7x47 and 6x47 up first. Hope to do 22, 6.5, and 30 for future. One brass equals home run for me. This should be fun and hell i may try the 23 and 25 for you 23/25 lovers. Thanks for your help. Now to pick an action...

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

Well fellas. I made my mind up...
Kinda.... going to do multiple barrels, on custom action. Parent case for all future work is going to be 47 lapua. 7x47 and 6x47 up first. Hope to do 22, 6.5, and 30 for future. One brass equals home run for me. This should be fun and hell i may try the 23 and 25 for you 23/25 lovers. Thanks for your help. Now to pick an action...

multiple winners on that case.
Enjoy!

 

[johnfred1965]

The only replacement for cubic inches, is cubic $$dollar$$.

there is always nitrous! Don't know what the equivelent would be for a rifle though.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

there is always nitrous! Don't know what the equivelent would be for a rifle though.

Probably a 284 Lapua. Lol!