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long range groundhog hunting

Sling enough lead and you will eventually hit something at some point. But off hand free standing head shots on ground hogs at 200 yards and never wounding one is just simple B.S.
There's a whole lot I have to say to an ass like you but seeing how the boss will want to throw me off I'm just going to let it go. Congratulations you made the ignore list. Just cuz you can't do it doesn't mean other people can't.
 
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There's a whole lot I have to say to an ass like you but see inside the boss will want to throw me off I'm just going to let it go. Congratulations you made the ignore list. Just cuz you can't do it doesn't mean other people can't.
I guarantee no one can do it, every single shot.
 
Hunting whistle pigs sure is fun no matter how you do it! I don’t think there’s anything more relaxing than a nice summer evening with my favorite choice of weapon and style of hunting and the smell of manure in the air known to mankind. Just get out there and do it. The only audience I have and need is me. And what I have seen through the crosshairs of my scopes over the last 50 years most wouldn’t believe anyway. I think I hear my swift downstairs saying “let’s roll em”
 
I guarantee no one can do it, every single shot.
I'll just say it. I don't give a rats butt if I hit em low and they crawl. I try 'n hit em again. I'm not perfect, and I am not scared of trying either. I don't like it when it happens either. But,if I set the standard of "only headshots" I would never have shot a groundhog (anywhere) over 200 yards, as I suspect you haven't. But as I tried, I found that a chest hit at 400, and later at 800 (bench) was very satisfying. Yes, I hit a some low, but I learned and I got better and am pretty good at making hits out to around 600, as my skills and eyes fade with age. I understand your moral standard. I just don't share it.
I did not hear anyone here say they made headshots "every time". I understood that there are many who, with a LOT of practice on two feet ( hind feet steel shooters) could hold like that. It is a scary thing to behold. There was a time when I tried RF silouette and shot a 29 the first time I tried. I was 14. And that was a LONG time ago, and I shot a bunch of offhand in the field with a good German airgun before I was asked to try that RF game. It was YOU who set the "demand" that everyone "shoot heads". I, like anyone, love the headshot...in fact if you have been here for any length of time you'd know that my propensity to make headshots has earned the term here on AS "it's been snerted" when posting a photo of a PD or a groundhog.
I have found that guys here get along a lot better and share openly when others show grace and kindness to ne another. Sometimes that means keeping your opinion to yourself. And sometimes it means softening tone.
 
I've never been a head-shooter. Not groundhogs, not deer and not even wild hogs. I have never found it necessary to take head-shoots to get instant kills on groundhogs. Most of my LR kills were with the 22-243AI and the 75gr A-Max. Death was generally instant with upper body hits. The A-Max expanded violently at virtually any distance that I shot.
Using a highly frangible bullet always seemed to be more important than anything else. The exception was the 17HMR which just didn't have enough bullet mass IMO.
 
I've never been a head-shooter. Not groundhogs, not deer and not even wild hogs. I have never found it necessary to take head-shoots to get instant kills on groundhogs. Most of my LR kills were with the 22-243AI and the 75gr A-Max. Death was generally instant with upper body hits. The A-Max expanded violently at virtually any distance that I shot.
Using a highly frangible bullet always seemed to be more important than anything else. The exception was the 17HMR which just didn't have enough bullet mass IMO.
100 percent agree. Energy dump, proper bullet design for impact speed, and mass of bullet are the determining factors. I'll take a 87 grain Vmax on an 8 twist with reasonable speed over a 7 Mag 150 grain bullet any day. Dump that energy in and on a chuck, and it results in a sudden decompression
 
Never had a GH take another step with a center mass hit from a 6.5 140 grain ELDM or Amax. It literally guts them and instantly anchors them. Even at the longest ranges. I've had head shots where I Nicked the head trying for one at medium ranges from a bad wind call and they've made it in their den. I don't take head shots on GHs unless it's dead calm and shots are 300 or less off sand bags or bipod.
 

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