Lock-ease

[FNSafari]

Been reading the info. on Lock-ease and how it helps with fresh cleaned barrel flyers. Anyone currently use it and wondered if its effective or not.
Thanks for any replies.

IMO myth. Tried it for several years, no difference in using it or not. A lot depends on the barrel itself, which means it might. I've never had one that responded to it.

 

[liljoe]

I remember seeing one of the Canadian shooters buying about 15 bottles of it at the nationals one day. I asked him why he was buying all of it. He said it was nowhere to be found north of the border and his shooting buddies would buy it from him.
Joe

 

[wboggs]

I have a question. Why put carbon in a barrel when you usually want to remove it? I have seen the Speedy video
and he uses it to get the first shots to settle faster and cleans after shooting so it does not accumulate but I don't see a big need for the average shooter.

 

[Uthink Uknow]

The alternative to Lock-eze is/was Tungston Disulfide (WS2). I mixed it with Penephite and gave some away if you had a container at matches. I also tumbled bullets in the dry WS2. In fact I still have some. I felt it worked just like Lock-Eze. But then along came Boron Nitride and it does all that WS2 does plus it’s cleaner on your hands. In fact, Boron Nitride is a powder and is used in cosmetics. I mix the Boron with alcohol and use it as a bore conditioning agent. I also tumble bullets in the powder. The boron for bore conditioning and for bullets tumbling are different grades of BN. I feel that the use of either of these products makes barrel cleaning easier and extends barrel life. Less cleaning alone should extend barrel life.

 

[Bill K]

Maybe it does work or not, many top shooters use it and I also like and use it. Seems to aid in the shooting and gives some added protection to the bore, after cleaning. Personal choice to use or not.

 

[deertroy1]

The alternative to Lock-eze is/was Tungston Disulfide (WS2). I mixed it with Penephite and gave some away if you had a container at matches. I also tumbled bullets in the dry WS2. In fact I still have some. I felt it worked just like Lock-Eze. But then along came Boron Nitride and it does all that WS2 does plus it’s cleaner on your hands. In fact, Boron Nitride is a powder and is used in cosmetics. I mix the Boron with alcohol and use it as a bore conditioning agent. I also tumble bullets in the powder. The boron for bore conditioning and for bullets tumbling are different grades of BN. I feel that the use of either of these products makes barrel cleaning easier and extends barrel life. Less cleaning alone should extend barrel life.

Anyone ever use this stuff?

 

[Pawnee Bill]

More Snake Oil.

 

[Uthink Uknow]

For a time many short range BR shooters were using either of the products mentioned above. I don’t shoot as much or get around now so I can’t say what who is using.

 

[Liven The Dream]

Liquid Moly ?? Bore Treatment .
Think I have some from those Moly Coating Days ?

 

[deertroy1]

Thanks for the replies. I'm going to try the RyDol. Can't hurt.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Checked with NAPA Canada. They don't carry it. We don't have Lowes in the Maritimes. Jig-A-Loos Extreme Graphite spray is available but I read on another site that the carrier in it doesn't have any oil so if you spray it on a patch it evaporates almost instantly.

The whole point in using it is because it evaporates instantly. You want the carrier to be that way so you dont have to wait for it to dry or have oil in your barrel

 

[Bottom Fodder]

In my mind it works and does not hurt so ‍ I use it

 

[lukester]

I'm a believer and will post a couple of pics to show what it does for my barrel... After a very thorough cleaning, I finish with two patches of lock-eaze through the barrel; let it sit/evaporate for maybe 5 minutes; then run two dry patches through and put the rifle away 'til the its next range outing.

In the pic below, the 5 cold bore foulers are on the bottom right hand target. (Before working on a seating depth test... thus, the reference to -.005") Prior to the lock-eaze method, this barrel would throw a round or two maybe 1 - 1&1/2" high to start with and kind of walk down into its spot after that.
As you can see in the pics, w/ the lock-eaze, the first cold-bore fouler is in the same spot as essentially everything else that comes after it. That 5 shot cold-bore group measured .197". (I figure even if I'm bad at measuring, I didn't miss it by enough to make that a bad group

 

[KMart]

I think that using Lock ease or other lubes help depending on your cleaning procedure. If you are not cleaning down to bare metal, you are leaving a small amount of carbon/copper in the barrel that serves as a lubricant for the first shot. Same as leaving carbon in your case necks that serves as a lubricant for smooth seating of the bullets.
If you take the cleaning down to bare metal, There is no lubricant, carbon/copper left in the barrel. Then when you fire the first shot or two, you have laid down the lubricant.
You can check this when you fire over a chrono. The first shot through a barrel with a bare metal type cleaning, tends to be a couple of hundred fps slower compared to the remainder of the shots, in my experience.
YMMV. There are barrels that will consistently put the clean cold bore shot into the group, regardless of cleaning process, and others that won't shoot in the same zip code.
I use Lock ease, but I have used Marvel Mystery oil a well. 4 drops of oil on a tight patch and burnish it back and forth in the barrel. Then one clean dry patch to remove the excess. Both seem to work the same for me.

 

[moondog]

I drank the kool-aid! I tried the product GreTan sells. Pre conditioner and maintenance. I'm a believer now. Barrels clean up much quicker. Break in quicker. Verified by a Hawkeye. Can't speak to the flyer part though.