Load data for.460 Weatherby, under 300 gr.

[Bob B.]

Looking for load data for .460 Weatherby especially for less than 300gr. bullets. Lehigh and Cutting Edge Bullets have some interesting lighter than usual bullets and can't seem to come up with data to support them.
Thanks, Bob

 

[wboggs]

Start with some data for the 350gr Hornady bullets. Barnes makes light for caliber bullets. Look at their data.
I assume you are looking for reduced recoil loafs

 

[2506]

I don't have my book handy but I think the Accurate powder manual has some reduced load data using their 5744 powder. Might check them out.

 

[Bob B.]

Start with some data for the 350gr Hornady bullets. Barnes makes light for caliber bullets. Look at their data.
I assume you are looking for reduced recoil loafs

Thanks for your reply,
Actually no. A lot of folks do that, maybe I will try that at some point. I'm just curious about the results of loads of some larger calibers that I have been considering. A few years ago I started looking into loads from .30 caliber up that would expend their total energy inside the animal without the usual exit wound. The target game would be deer. Just checking around to see what others have done.

Thanks, Bob

 

[JRS]

Thanks for your reply,
Actually no. A lot of folks do that, maybe I will try that at some point. I'm just curious about the results of loads of some larger calibers that I have been considering. A few years ago I started looking into loads from .30 caliber up that would expend their total energy inside the animal without the usual exit wound. The target game would be deer. Just checking around to see what others have done.

Thanks, Bob

Choose the proper bullet.

 

[Bob B.]

I don't have my book handy but I think the Accurate powder manual has some reduced load data using their 5744 powder. Might check them out.

I have checked with them
Thanks, Bob

 

[wboggs]

Bob
If you want a bullet that will practically blow up inside a deer when fired at high velocity from a 460, try the 405gr ones intended for the 45-70. Even the light weight Barnes will stay intact. Check a couple of them to find the lightest construction and that would be a good place to start. Full power 460 loads will push them 2900 or so and they will violently expand. Some fragments may penetrate completely but you will have accomplished your objective.

 

[wboggs]

Bob
If you want a bullet that will practically blow up inside a deer when fired at high velocity from a 460, try the 405gr ones intended for the 45-70. Even the light weight Barnes will stay intact. Check a couple of them to find the lightest construction and that would be a good place to start. Full power 460 loads will push them 2900 or so and they will violently expand. Some fragments may penetrate completely but you will have accomplished your objective.

Bob
I just looked up .458 bullets on midway. There are several 300 grs hps available. I would try these and think they would be better than the 405 gr. They are almost sure to have the least penetration. Do not use any plated bullets since they will lead your barrel badly at high velocity.
Bill

 

[Bob B.]

Bob
If you want a bullet that will practically blow up inside a deer when fired at high velocity from a 460, try the 405gr ones intended for the 45-70. Even the light weight Barnes will stay intact. Check a couple of them to find the lightest construction and that would be a good place to start. Full power 460 loads will push them 2900 or so and they will violently expand. Some fragments may penetrate completely but you will have accomplished your objective.

Anose
36 years ago I did that with Speer 400gr. I sold that rifle but wish I hadn't. Bullet choice was very limited back then. Today- different story. Same story with available powders years ago. I've checked with most powder makers and not much in data about lighter than usual bullet loads pushed to the max.
In 1982 a friend borrowed my 460 with the Speer flatnose loaded to the max to put down one of his horses. The shot was about 5 yds. and about as close as possible to hitting perfectly between the eyes. Without going into detail, the bullet fragmented and penetration stopped near the 2/3 mark down the lenght of the neck. No fragments exited and it was the quickest and most humane death I'd ever witnessed.

Thanks, Bob

 

[Bob B.]

Bob
I just looked up .458 bullets on midway. There are several 300 grs hps available. I would try these and think they would be better than the 405 gr. They are almost sure to have the least penetration. Do not use any plated bullets since they will lead your barrel badly at high velocity.
Bill

Thanks Bill,
I decided to stay away from anything but jacketed bullets decades ago, other than Barnes and similar types.

Bob

 

[wboggs]

36 years ago I did that with Speer 400gr. I sold that rifle but wish I hadn't. Bullet choice was very limited back then. Today- different story. Same story with available powders years ago. I've checked with most powder makers and not much in data about lighter than usual bullet loads pushed to the max.

Thanks, Bob

I think Speer is one of the stronger 400 gr.
You can figure out your own data. I would suspect Barnes has some high velocity data for it's light bullets since they withstand almost any speed you you can drive them. Use as a starting point.

 

[Bob B.]

I think Speer is one of the stronger 400 gr.
You can figure out your own data. I would suspect Barnes has some high velocity data for it's light bullets since they withstand almost any speed you you can drive them. Use as a starting point.

You are correct. I have communicated with them. Since I don't have a chronograph I was hoping they might have some good beginning loads and save me some time.
I like using Hodgdons data because it's possible to view the pressures in cup and psi. I wish all sources were psi, easier for me.
Sometimes you can find a load that has greater velocity but less pressure than other loads with the same bullet. Just change powders. Just a little curious as to what others may have discovered.
Bob

 

[wboggs]

Bob
I like Hodgdons also. See what they have for loads using h380,h414, h4895, h4350, h4831 with a 350 gr bullet. You could use for starting loads. You will have a tremendous amout of bullet jump with the short bullets and weatherby throat. Will.be interesting to see what accuracy will be.

 

[wboggs]

Bob
I like Hodgdons also. See what they have for loads using h380,h414, h4895, h4350, h4831 with a 350 gr bullet. You could use for starting loads. You will have a tremendous amout of bullet jump with the short bullets and weatherby throat. Will.be interesting to see what accuracy will be.

Bob
Have you tried any loads yet?

 

[hogpatrol]

Ammoguide lists 33 loads for the cartridge.

http://ammoguide.com/cgi-bin/loadfinder.cgi

 

[Bob B.]

You are correct. I have communicated with them. Since I don't have a chronograph I was hoping they might have some good beginning loads and save me some time.
I like using Hodgdons data because it's possible to view the pressures in cup and psi. I wish all sources were psi, easier for me.
Sometimes you can find a load that has greater velocity but less pressure than other loads with the same bullet. Just change powders. Just a little curious as to what others may have discovered.
Bob

I agree. ALL of the largest suppliers that print pressure data should should supply that info. I wonder if it would be too much to ask for them to update all data to "psi". I once read that the metallurgy used to manufacture the cylinders was inconsistent enough to cause unwanted deviations in the "cup" results. One of the most interesting benefits in Hodgdon's data is that sometimes a load that has increased velocity can do so with decreased pressure .
Thanks , Bob

 

[Bob B.]

Bob
Have you tried any loads yet?

May get to shoot in the next two weeks. Will send results after shooting.
Thank you, Bob

 

[Bob B.]

S

Thanks Bill,
I decided to stay away from anything but jacketed bullets decades ago, other than Barnes and similar types.

Bob

Sierra said their 300 gr won't take it and may come apart before exiting the barrel. Scratch that one from the list !!! Hornady said 2900 max. , scratch that one too.
Bob

 

[Eric Leonard]

accurtereloading lists the 350 Hornady and IMR4064 at 3000fps

IMR4064 350 HORNADY RN
111.5 2926
112.5 2954
114.0 3009

http://www.accuratereloading.com/460wmag.html

 

[joshb]

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