Live Round Ejection,
- Thread starter T.Rhodes
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Yeah, actually I do.
Particularly like the “mandatory safety” comment. Of course, you just wiped out the entire world of rimfire and centerfire benchrest.
pirate ammo
Guaranteed to take the wind out of their sails
ever notice that on some threads after 8 or 9 post others jump in and start to criticize others,,I'm done now,,
Ya it's getting old , a lot of the old school guys have moved on because of some new members and all the arguing...
I've had this happen a few times - more common with RF than CF. It does not always happen, but once in a while a round gets stuck in the chamber. I simply bring it to the attention of the RO and ask permission to fire it into the berm. The RO has always said yes, and it has never been a problem. If there were an immediate safety issue (someone downrange, etc.) preventing the round from being safely fired, then I would ask/recommend that the action simply be left open. In repeating rimfires, a chamber flag can be inserted with a round in the chamber by putting it into the action and down where the magazine goes. If this is not possible, I'd ask/request to point the rifle skyward until conditions permit safe firing.
In over 20 years of shooting, I've had one or two occasions where the round could neither be extracted nor fired due to mechanical issues. One does what one can to disable the firearm, but it may become necessary to transport the firearm in that condition.
In over 20 years of shooting, I've had one or two occasions where the round could neither be extracted nor fired due to mechanical issues. One does what one can to disable the firearm, but it may become necessary to transport the firearm in that condition.
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JMayo
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None of the custom rifles with cone beaches I know of in bench rest games Will eject a live round. Not because they are jammed. They can be pulled out without losing bullet.
They seat deep and when fired they come into the extractor.
No psl, ara or ir match ends in a way that anyone has a bullet in. But range master says "if ya got one in, shoot it" to call range cold during practice.
They seat deep and when fired they come into the extractor.
No psl, ara or ir match ends in a way that anyone has a bullet in. But range master says "if ya got one in, shoot it" to call range cold during practice.
Since this thread has twisted and turned it should be noted that the pulled bullet examples refer to many CF bench guns where bullets are jammed.
Typically I tend to load and seat to jump bullets .
Well, back to my live round ejection problem. I installed a Kidd extractor and new spring that came with it. It appears to have a more pronounced "hook" to grab the case. It helped, but not 100% fix. I'll get one failure on each 10 round mag. I loaded a ten round mag and then try ejecting all ten, one round at a time.
Think I'll call Kidd tomorrow and see if they have any suggestions. Any ideas here?
Think I'll call Kidd tomorrow and see if they have any suggestions. Any ideas here?
Yeah, an earlier poster made reference to CF extraction with possible powder dump. Nobody ever opined that it was a RF issue.
Not my fault if you get confused easily.
My opening statement was clearly regarding my 10/22 - so it was opined.
Two things to try, both require a gradual approach but will work.
First off, have you actually checked to see that you have a clean chamber and chamber throat, especially the throat which will make everything worse.
First pull the extractor and hold it up to a case. Make sure the claw is at 90 deg for a full purchase on the case.
Now look down on the claw. If the edge is flat to the case body, you can take a small round file and put a slight radius in the tip of the claw, roughly matching the case body. This will allow more of it to capture the case rim.
Again, get the throat clean because carbon fouling in it increases the friction.
I have a Kidd barrel and extractor on my 10/22 match rifle. I will honestly say that it will almost never pull a live round. when I can get it to, I am positive that the bullet has been engraved by the start of the rifling. It's kind of the nature of the beast. That jamming effect works to align the bullet and then create pressure when fired. When I shoot the NRL22 matches, I rarely end a stage with rounds left. But when that does occur, we always just allow the shooter to finish the rounds in the mag at the target. It's just steel after all.
My aftermarket barrel on the 10/22 does this sometimes too. Its an old midway barrel. When it has happened it is a dud round. After trying to fire it and get it to extract several times I ultimately use a pocket knife to get behind the rim and pull it out. Don't shoot matches, but just saying it happens. I plan to get a kidd bolt and hope that helps....Also, make sure to clean the chamber with a brush really good and avoid ammo that has the really huge driving bands such as CCI SSHP.
This is part of the reason the factory chamber is so sloppy.
This is part of the reason the factory chamber is so sloppy.
Good to hear about this...wish the MD (Match Director) was this accommodating. The one I've talked to and wanted to go to regards this situation as an anomaly and I then become the problem child to be watched with distrust.
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