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Leveling a Lathe the Easy Way

I need to share this. This evening, Bruce Thom of BAT Machine came by the shop to help us with our new lathe. For those of you who don't know, Bruce and his brother Daryle (the Brothers BAT) are exceptional gentlemen.

We recently received out new Kingston HJ-1100 and got it in place. This meant moving the PM1440GT that I have been using, reconfiguring the flush, setting up flush on the Kingston, wiring a bunch of stuff, and leveling two lathes.

So I have leveled lathes three times. My PM1340 at home in two different locations, and the PM1440GT at work. The way I did it was to use a .0002" accuracy 8" level and continually adjust the head, then tail, back and forth until everything leveled out. It took about 3 hours and my knees and back would ache when I was done. But my lathe would be level.

Enter Bruce Thom the master machinist. He said you have to let he lathe settle into place. So you adjust the head so it's level (with the level across the ways) then the tail. When you go back and check the head it will be out. That means you wait a bit for the metal to settle before adjusting.

Doing it this way is much easier than how I was doing it. He then said to check it frequently over the next few months until settles down, and the check it periodically after that.

All you long time machinists are laughing and saying "No Duh!" Well, I tried to find a manual machining course when I got my own lathe five years ago, and the only thing I could find was CNC machining. So this is a new thing for me.

I always wondered why leveling one end would unlevel the other end for a while. Now I know.....
 
I need to share this. This evening, Bruce Thom of BAT Machine came by the shop to help us with our new lathe. For those of you who don't know, Bruce and his brother Daryle (the Brothers BAT) are exceptional gentlemen.

We recently received out new Kingston HJ-1100 and got it in place. This meant moving the PM1440GT that I have been using, reconfiguring the flush, setting up flush on the Kingston, wiring a bunch of stuff, and leveling two lathes.

So I have leveled lathes three times. My PM1340 at home in two different locations, and the PM1440GT at work. The way I did it was to use a .0002" accuracy 8" level and continually adjust the head, then tail, back and forth until everything leveled out. It took about 3 hours and my knees and back would ache when I was done. But my lathe would be level.

Enter Bruce Thom the master machinist. He said you have to let he lathe settle into place. So you adjust the head so it's level (with the level across the ways) then the tail. When you go back and check the head it will be out. That means you wait a bit for the metal to settle before adjusting.

Doing it this way is much easier than how I was doing it. He then said to check it frequently over the next few months until settles down, and the check it periodically after that.

All you long time machinists are laughing and saying "No Duh!" Well, I tried to find a manual machining course when I got my own lathe five years ago, and the only thing I could find was CNC machining. So this is a new thing for me.

I always wondered why leveling one end would unlevel the other end for a while. Now I know.....
Always wondered about this. There is a difference between level and twist. Figure how much taper for 1 inch tenon with a slight
twist in the ways. With a floating pusher the reamer gonna follow the hole pretty much no matter.
 
i typically let a lathe set for a month before trying to level. and i use a 12" 0.0003,using half of the mark. marks are 0.1 spaced,easy to split one. and recheck quite a bit..go slow
 
You've apparently never been on a warship.
The level of shipboard precision is probably dictated my the skill of the Machinist Mate.
just the change of temperature n humidity in the compartment would be a challenge to maintain any sort of precision. Iron men and wooden ships!
 
A lathe does not need to be level, The twist must be eliminated from the ways. This is what "Richard King" tells you and he knows what he is talking about. You could put a 2x4 under one end and as long as you took out any twist from the ways you would be fine.
 
You sure Bruce wasn't just using a good excuse to get out of the shop where some crazy guy was wanting him to help level their lathe?

You guys and your old fixed datums. New CNC machine center on a ship that auto compensates for alignment error.
 
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