Lets talk about antiquated/out of style reloading practices

[shoot4fun]

mr guffey is PROUD to call you student and graduate. proud papa I'm sure. the master is infallible

is @fguffey still on here? Haven't seen any of his ramblings in quite some time.

 

[group therapy]

is @fguffey still on here? Haven't seen any of his ramblings in quite some time.

idk, been a long time(no, I didnt look) since hes been on here. just a running joke for us old timers!! not to insinuate that the guff was a joke, he was quite the man I wanna be when I grow up. oh yeah, and shooter too

 

[JFrank]

I was rapping with Mr. Guffey a couple months ago on the high road forum.
Not sure where he’s hanging now.

for equipment I personally have upgraded every tool, die, scale, you name it I’ve replaced it since the time I joined this forum including the method in how to go about this crazy thing called accuracy.
Can’t go back now.....

 

[jackieschmidt]

Agreed. I'm not judging anyone here.

If enough guys tell me they see benefit from sacraficing chickens after they anneal, I'm going to go buy a few chickens, and I'll probably have questions about the optimal knife to use.

The real benefit if the chicken sacrificing is to ring their necks and watch the body flop around. That frightens off the infinite variables that always seem to to be lurking.

Inside neck reaming?? I think the burnished finish inside the neck is ideal. I can’t see where a bunch of tool marks would be of any benefit.

All of my Competition Rifles are “tight neck”, mainly to insure consistent neck tension.

I agree with the statement that many of the problems mentioned can be eliminated by simply making straight loaded rounds.

there are quite a few things I good do if the object was to simply go to the range and shoot the smallest groups possible. But the realities of the Competitive Arena dictates many of our practices.

 

[Rich Lee]

i started loading in the 70s and ive always chamfered.

I started loading in the early 90s and only load for shooting p d but I always champher od and Id after trimming.Afterwards I run a nylon brush down the neck a couple times to clean it up and 4 ot steelwool to clean up the outside.I also neck size with the wilson bushing die even for 400 and 500 yard shots.I also check the concintricity of my rounds for an average and clean all primer pockets with a primer pocket uniformer and use a percision primer gauge to check the depth of my pockets and also to check how far they are seated..consistancy is where its at.

 

[hoz53]

I started loading in the early 90s and only load for shooting p d but I always champher od and Id after trimming.Afterwards I run a nylon brush down the neck a couple times to clean it up and 4 ot steelwool to clean up the outside.I also neck size with the wilson bushing die even for 400 and 500 yard shots.I also check the concintricity of my rounds for an average and clean all primer pockets with a primer pocket uniformer and use a percision primer gauge to check the depth of my pockets and also to check how far they are seated..consistancy is where its at.

sounds like u cover the bases-- do you ever neck turn?

 

[MikeMcCasland]

I was rapping with Mr. Guffey a couple months ago on the high road forum.
Not sure where he’s hanging now.

I legitimately miss the guy. Dead Serious.

Whenever I'm having trouble falling asleep I'll search for old F.Guffey threads.

Talk of mystical tools & gages that we mere mortals can't comprehend, shoulders remaining static during sizing, owning something like 300 reamers....it really was something to behold. I mean that seriously too. If you held a gun to my head, I would unable to replicate his writing style, nor creative enough to come up with the content.

#FreeGuffey

 

[JFrank]

Free Guffey

 

[JimSC]

The real benefit if the chicken sacrificing is to ring their necks and watch the body flop around.

I think the real benefit of chicken sacrificing is fried chicken served with biscuits and cole slaw

 

[shoot4fun]

I think the real benefit of chicken sacrificing is fried chicken served with biscuits and cole slaw

What you guys do with your chicken is not my business!!!

 

[NZ_Fclass]

, WHAT!! my uncle did too!!!

Perhaps we're related?

 

[people]

"Inside Neck Reaming". I won't open this can of worms
too wide but, I do it with a passion, and "Do Not" outside
neck turn. When wild catting, sometimes it's an absolute
necessity. I'll stop here as some start yelling "heresy"

Yes wild catting. "How else will I get 30-06 to fit in a 25-06." Once told to me by my Grandpa. He has been reloading a very long time.

 

[Three44s]

Just a coyote/varmint huntin’ redneck here!

I am sure the bushing style dies are better, and I have a new to me set in 7mm TCU I have not used yet(have to buy the bushing for it and forgot what size to start with).

But I was a little surprised to read that my Collet dies are obsolete.

Don’t tell my prey yet, they still tip over!

Three44s

 

[Raythemanroe]

I still clean my primer pockets with a uniformer, why not?

I don't neck size only but understand it's place back in the day and still believe it has its place for a rookie reloader. Neck sizing a hunting rig or something that most likely won't be reloaded enough to see the brass get hit twice probably will never produce extraction problems.. Bumping .0015-.002 is my prescription but a beginner may not have the knowledge or equipment to make accurate brass. Neck sizing is a lazy way to get results IMHO.

I number my brass and move ones that produce flyers to the sighter group out from record brass. When full length sizing I index my brass 90 degrees and size again (two steps) because it has proven for me to produce straighter brass and remove that "banana" case.

I don't understand they idea that annealing is out dated so I won't even go there. I feel this isn't even a question, I anneal..

Ray

 

[SPQR70AD]

the more prep I did to cases proved nothing to me. I shot tiny groups with mixed GI and commercial brass and hunting bullets. not enough to win an inter galactical bench rest contest but 1/2 to one inch at 200 yds is good enough for me

 

[group therapy]

What you guys do with your chicken is not my business!!!

 

[tmwinds]

it is interesting that the world record was a .009 group for 40 years from 1973 to 2013, in 2013 it was broken by a .0077 group

Just goes to show that these type targets are pure luck, otherwise it would happen more often. This is not meant to take anything away from the shooters that shot the records.

 

[group therapy]

the more prep I did to cases proved nothing to me. I shot tiny groups with mixed GI and commercial brass and hunting bullets. not enough to win an inter galactical bench rest contest but 1/2 to one inch at 200 yds is good enough for me

there's a big difference in what you are looking for vs what some of us are looking for. you are happy with 1/2 moa, I for one, am looking for 1/10th to 2/10th's moa. it usually takes a LOT of extra everything to get that extra .2-.3 tenths. most are not willing nor have a desire to look for that extra. I am. dont take this as a knock on what you do, its not. what's important is that we are all shooting, all part of the good club. NOT THE OTHER SIDE!! I look for extreme accuracy but love shooting with the ak blasters, pistoleros, plinkers, it dont matter. VERY FEW of my shooting buddies go to the extremes that I do. they are no less, just different. we are all part of the same big family, differences are what make things interesting. just my .02 and have a great day

 

[SPQR70AD]

there's a big difference in what you are looking for vs what some of us are looking for. you are happy with 1/2 moa, I for one, am looking for 1/10th to 2/10th's moa. it usually takes a LOT of extra everything to get that extra .2-.3 tenths. most are not willing nor have a desire to look for that extra. I am. dont take this as a knock on what you do, its not. what's important is that we are all shooting, all part of the good club. NOT THE OTHER SIDE!! I look for extreme accuracy but love shooting with the ak blasters, pistoleros, plinkers, it dont matter. VERY FEW of my shooting buddies go to the extremes that I do. they are no less, just different. we are all part of the same big family, differences are what make things interesting. just my .02 and have a great day

I commend you for the effort you put into your reloading and not debasing me cause I do not do it.

 

[joshb]

is @fguffey still on here? Haven't seen any of his ramblings in quite some time.

Last I heard, he started a reloading cult in the Arizona hills. Ya have to get thru years of training in the proper “speak” and learn hundreds of terms and techniques. When you graduate, you have to lift a burning cauldron off a pedestal while it brands your fore arms.
Just what I heard.......