Krieger or Bartlein best barrel

[brianc74]

I just have a question for you all. I am building a 6.5-7LRM. I want a 5r 1-8 twist ans ss. I am thinking a LT Palma or a Sendero in a Bartlein or a Krieger. How's barrel do you guys think would do the best for this project. Using a rem 700 la bdl and the new manners EH4 with the bdl chassis.

 

[Raptor]

Re: Krieger or Bartien best barrel

I have both plus Pac Nor and Broughton. They all make great barrels. I would worry more about who is going to do it for you.

 

[brianc74]

A local smith. Mr. Ed Sweet, in meridian ID. I was thinking. So what exactly is timing a barrel to the action.

 

[snowpro440]

I have used kriegers with excellent results and shilen with good results. Got my first 2 bruxs barrels and they show very promising so far .. I would go with cut rifling if it was me from now on..... They shoot the best from my experience.

 

[sdean]

Flip a coin!

 

[johara1]

A hummer is the best barrel, It doesn't matter who made it…….. jim

 

[Raptor]

Like I said in my earlier post you need to pick someone who builds guns for a living and has a good rep. Many smiths can rebarrel rifles but there is a huge difference between how well its done. I would look at Darrell Holland if you are in Idaho. He does outstanding work and has built close to a half dozen rifles for me and they were all shooters.

 

[mgx1138]

I have received consistently excellent barrels from both Kreiger and Bartlein. Right now I am shooting Bartlein barrels in my match rifles, but that was just because they were available when I needed them. Between those two manufacturers it often comes down to who has barrels to sell when I need one. Either barrel can make for a VERY competitive rifle.

 

[wapiti25]

Is this for LR hunting? Krieger and Bartlien both make very good barrels. You ask about "timing" I think you are asking about "indexing". Indexing is setting the natural curve of the barrel to be pointing up, this helps to not use as much elevation in the scope for long range and it does not use as much windage during sighting in the rifle.

 

[johara1]

If i had a barrel with a curve in it it you could see it would go back to the mfg. for a replacement……… I sure wouldn't put it on an action. I shoot a lot of long range…….. jim

 

[Bob3700]

Jim,
Most if not all bbls have a curve in them. Few if any are actually straight. You could only see it if you put it in a lathe, indicated the chamber end to run true and rotate the bbl. The muzzle will not track true. They will wave all over the place.

Indexing the bbl will take the high or low point of the curve at the muzzle and place it at 12 or 6 o'clock. That way you don't have to use up the windage adjustment on your sight or scope to center the shots from the rifle.

This is most common on a rifle built to shoot long range.

Bob

 

[6fatrat]

These guys are THE BEST of the best period! Choose either with confidence.

 

[BradY]

I wont ever buy a 5r krieger again. I have a real dog of a 7mm barrel on my FO gun that has taken 700 rounds to work a load for and im still not there. But their conventionally rifled barrels are fantastic and my krieger 236 4 groove 6 dasher shoots very well.

 

[JRS]

Is this for LR hunting? Krieger and Bartlien both make very good barrels. You ask about "timing" I think you are asking about "indexing". Indexing is setting the natural curve of the barrel to be pointing up, this helps to not use as much elevation in the scope for long range and it does not use as much windage during sighting in the rifle.

I hope you aren't suggesting, that when the barrel is deep hole drilled, that the drill is following the "curve" of the barrel.

 

[AusFclass]

I wont ever buy a 5r krieger again. I have a real dog of a 7mm barrel on my FO gun that has taken 700 rounds to work a load for and im still not there. But their conventionally rifled barrels are fantastic and my krieger 236 4 groove 6 dasher shoots very well.

Interesting. . . . I've got 2 of the same and they are both shooting 1.5" at 500. Could be a dud one or something else going on??

 

[BradY]

Tried everything apart from non 180gr bullets. Even then I have another caliber that has same ballistic performance as a 284S and 168gr bullets with less recoil and less powder burnt. That was the whole idea. Its starting to look better but I figure probably half its life has been taken doing load work, recrowning etc. Everything in it is fine. Chamber is true and all. It just copper fouls like crazy and I now have to run moly to get two details out of it. Im playing with some non ADI powder in it now and pushing it hard plus have a heavy tuner installed on the end of it. Seems to be on the improve which is good. I have a benchmark on order for the next one, fingers crossed their 5r barrels perform better than this one does.

 

[johara1]

Bob, I shoot with some very heavy hitters and excellent smiths and have never heard of this. Where do you buy these bent barrels? i will do business else where. i never had to index a barrel in because it was bent, sounds strange to me, but i've only been shooting competition for 50 years……. jim

 

[dkhunt14]

I know some guys that send 4 to 5 barrels back a year they check them out including slugging them. One of the top 1000 yard BR guys told me he sent back 5 of the last 6 he got last year. He said they just weren't up to his specifications and wouldn't accept them. Matt

 

[johara1]

Matt, just tried 5 barrels and i screw them on and they hit with in a couple of inches from the last barrel i took off. Can't be too bent, but i sure sent a bunch back for defects, but not bent ….. jim

 

[jcampbellsmith]

Bob, I shoot with some very heavy hitters and excellent smiths and have never heard of this. Where do you buy these bent barrels? i will do business else where. i never had to index a barrel in because it was bent, sounds strange to me, but i've only been shooting competition for 50 years……. jim

I'm sure some thirty years ago, long before the Internet I read about this. Barrels are banana shaped. It depends how closely you examine them.

Regards

JCS