ItchyTF,
Farley rest is a great rest. I ever used it once at the WBC several years ago. It's my mentor's rest. You can't be wrong with it if you like a joystick type rest.
Regarding they move under recoil(?), I believe it's a matter of the tension adjustment and how the shooter handles the stick. I myself (and I think a lot others) prefer to handle/hold the stick steadily when firing, instead to let it "floats in the air". I do not know the inside mechanism/details of the Farley rests, but they must be about the same or similar with the mechanism on my rests. If you hold the stick steadily the top wouldn't move, no matter how big is the rifle/caliber. I'm not a world class BR shooter in any way, however I did compete with many of them several times at the WBC & Supershoot, and have used my own rests for short range BR with LV/HV gun and "medium long range" (500 meters) with Heavy Gun that weight more than 50 lbs. I shot some screamers and placed considerably well (for my level) at those matches. --- Make no mistake, the Farley must be solid enough & wouldn't move under .30 cal or more. I dare to say this because I know a little about coaxial front rest.
Mikecr,
First I would like to thanks you for your thoughts & time.
Quote:"I really like the original SEB - Farley copy".
Thanks! - People already understood that my rests are not a copy of Farley rest. I respect Mr. Farley and the others, although I've never met him. A copy is when most of the things/details are about the same with the original/predecessor. People would NOT buy a copy or imitation, me too. BR is a very "segmented market", you will instantly know if you buy a copy/imitation stuff. I've sent several hundreds of SEB rests and more than one hundred NEO to more than 20 countries. Never once someone email me "I like your rest, even it's a copy"... If you compare my rest side to side with Farley or other rests, you will know it.... If you build/design a chair with 4 legs with your own design and is different than the others, does it mean that you copy other chair's design, just because yours also has 4 legs?... If you build a stock with your own design while there were many stocks out there already built before, (even the function is the same...i.e. to be a rifle stock), does it mean that you copy other's stock? How about actions, triggers, barrels, scopes, cars, buildings, etc etc? Just for instance. Make sense...?
Quote:"It fixes issues that Farley hadn't (at that time) for some reason. It put the forearm stop up on the cup, it allows turning the rest without disturbing the base, it provides a handle, a level on the cup, better bag squeezing, center support of mass to eliminate the canting caused b Farley's side support"
Thanks. Anyway no bag squeezing is needed using a coaxial rest.
Quote: "I don't like all the metal left in white though. IMO, a front rest (all of it) needs to be color coated. I don't need RADAR absorbing stealthy profiles. Various themes are nice. But a front rest should not produce glare"
Thanks again. It's actually correct, however many people love shiny/polished stuffs. Barrels, actions etc. On the other side, I don't have the tech & materials for anodizing etc over here. Polishing finish is my "only" choice. It takes time & labor cost but it makes the parts more rust resistant, it removes ugly burrs & tool marks also. Besides, I don't like cheap looking stuff myself.
This is a "to each his own" thing, IMHO.
Quote: "I also wonder if it's cup, combines with popular bags, violates a forearm bag 1/2" of support rule.. I read that as 1/2" of bag between forearm and any supporting metal, minimum"
I understood what you mean.
You might seen the prototype rest(s) only. The production rests have different side bags already, the bags protude more than 1/2" from the supporting metal, and more thicker at the base, more thin at the top. Severl rests have been used in registered & national level match and there was no problem/protest etc.
My friend, Mike Ratigan helps me with the bag design and many other details on the rest. Thanks mate!.
If you know him (Mike), you're talking with "the most pickiest" person on the planet. He is a truly "detail" man and really knows what he is talking about. He once said "If you can satisfy top class shooters, which are the hardest to please, you would satisfy most shooters" (not an exact quote from his, but something like that). He also said "my feedback is for the benefit of others on the future". I still remember that. He changed his old rest with my rest and ordered two more for himself. He also recommends my rest to other people. I don't think he will use an illegal rest or bag, or a "copy rest".
Quote: "I don't like built-in bags. Especially those too thin to stretch as 'sand bags'.
I don't like that they shed the rotating rest within the base.
If they put a cup on it, rotating assembly, and color coated every bit of it, I would like it.
If the cup also rotated with adjustment to stay perpendicular with the forearm(binding prevent), I would LOVE it".
Actually I have several other bases design that could rotate a little on the main base, similar to the original SEB rest. However they are more difficult & takes more time to build...only to make the price higher, in turn.
I intend to design the bags to be half round shape to minimize torque/bind/drag on the stock, especially when moving from a p.o.a. to another p.o.a. It is reported to work well and solid, too.
More later. Hope this answer/explain some things.
seb.
