Is this a problem?

[4xforfun]

Looks like when the gun was bedded the piller wasn't tall enough to touch the action, so it was bedded over. I went to put this stock back onto my action and saw this "washer" laying in my stock. I picked it up and it crumbled in my fingers. Looks like it flaked off of the piller. I am thinkin that when the action screw is tightened up it will try and suck the piller up towards the action.

Or am I worried about nothing?

Tod

 

[LRPV]

I'm thinking that your thinking is correct.

 

[joshb]

It should be refilled. The pillar WILL be stressed, and may pull, depending on your set up. What kind of bottom metal would be helpful. Is your torque point loading on the pillar?

 

[NorCalMikie]

Only issue "may" be if the pillar is REALLY secure in the bedding. Some folks rough up or cut grooves in the outside so the bedding has something to grip to. Might be a good idea to replace the "washer" with something the same thickness?? That way, no chance of stock damage if the pillar is real tight. A replacement (washer) will also have a metal to metal contact with the bottom of the action.
Might take a chance and hit the pillar with a big punch or something the same OD and see if it will move "up" into the stock. If it moves, drive it all the way thru, open up the bedding and reset the pillar to contact the bottom of the action. One step at a time.

 

[jimbires]

I'd fix it , if it were mine . I recently rebedded a stock using these from Ernie . Ernie the gun smith sells accu-risers . http://erniethegunsmith.com/catalog/i186.html

 

[4xforfun]

Acton is a BAT "M".

 

[DickE]

Looks to me like the pillar is too short. As stained as the rest of the epoxy bed is I would note that it is contaminated with oil, which will soften it. A picture of the rest of the bedding would be good. But, If it were mine I would get that pillar out of there and make a new one that is the right length, mill out most of the existing bedding and rebed the whole thing.

 

[ericbc7]

While I generally agree that a short pillar requires a "do-over", if the action is otherwise properly bedded you may achieve decent results by shimming the pillar with a washer of appropriate thickness and material. You will have to deal with keeping track of that hard-to-get-perfect washer for the life of the action/stock combination though.

Of course, If you paid a pro to have the bedding done, then bring it back for the fix (shouldn't cost you).
Good luck

 

[Dusty Stevens]

That whole bed job should be skim bedded. The top of the pillar needs to be roughed up before you do. If you can see the pillar where the screw goes in youll bust it thru. Try to keep oils and solvent off of it and grind all that dark colored bedding out

 

[4xforfun]

This is my very first thousand-yard BR gun. It's served me very very well. It was built by one of the very top gunsmiths in the country.... very well known and very well respected. But, I understand he has retired, so a re-do by him is not in the cards. I have a hard time believing he would let something subpar out of the shop but I guess the proof is in the pudding. I'll send it to my new stock guy .....he'll get it fixed up right. Thanks for the replies!!

Tod

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Its not that he did anything wrong. Bedding must be re done every once in a while. Yours had a shorter lifespan due to oil or solvent getting on it. You may need a new boreguide to protect your new bedding

 

[Dusty Stevens]

If youre thinking he did a bad job because the pillar didnt touch the action thats not right. Most gunsmiths bed over the pillars so the action rests on the same substrate so dont think it was a bad job or that he did anything wrong.

 

[billlarson]

I'd fix it , if it were mine . I recently rebedded a stock using these from Ernie . Ernie the gun smith sells accu-risers . http://erniethegunsmith.com/catalog/i186.html

aman........... +2

 

[Big Mc]

Looks like when the gun was bedded the piller wasn't tall enough to touch the action, so it was bedded over. I went to put this stock back onto my action and saw this "washer" laying in my stock. I picked it up and it crumbled in my fingers. Looks like it flaked off of the piller. I am thinkin that when the action screw is tightened up it will try and suck the piller up towards the action.

Or am I worried about nothing?

Tod

If walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it,s a duck.. My two cents.. Tommy Mc..

 

[holstil]

I prefer the action sitting on the bedding compound only, no pillars just screw housings.

Jim

 

[HCP]

I prefer the action sitting on the bedding compound only, no pillars just screw housings.

Jim

George Kelbly stated years ago that he preferred the action sitting on a layer of bedding above the pillar. In my opinion he's right. Possibly that layer flaked off.
Check bedding with dial indicator and results on target, it may be just fine.

 

[Riesel]

George Kelbly stated years ago that he preferred the action sitting on a layer of bedding above the pillar. In my opinion he's right. Possibly that layer flaked off.
Check bedding with dial indicator and results on target, it may be just fine.

Agreed

 

[BoydAllen]

After George Kelbly told me that his and other's experience had been that bedding over pillars shot better, that is what I did. In order to unify the job, I first glued in the pillars so that they were quite a bit low, and then used my Dremel tool to open up the stock quite a lot around the top of the pillar, about half way down its length. The pillars were grooved. I don't claim to be a bedding expert, but it worked. I also cut a channel from the front pillar to the recoil lug mortise about an inch wide and 3/8" deep.

 

[4xforfun]

Good to know!!! I am still going to have the bedding looked at. I don't have a clue how any oil or cleaning stuff got into the bedding area...it is a BAT "M" single shot, and the bedding has been discolored for as long as I can remember owning it. Maybe rough up the existing bedding and the top of the piller and have it "skim bedded"??? The gun has always been a hammer!!!

Again...thanks,

Tod

 

[john 800]

Somebody correct me if my idea is a bad one but my thoughts are that it broke because the bedding material was thin between the pillar and action. If the pillar is secure does it make sense to remove material from the pillar with a dremel to Make the bedding thicker?