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Is seating depth a constant?

Watch how relatively little seating depth affects muzzle velocity, all while causing way bigger changes on paper than these little velocity changes cause -using powder. If your seating change leads to 10 or maybe even 20fps, then go ahead and replicate the same velocity change with powder, and you will not see anything likewise from that.
This means seating and powder are not of the same function, with a flip of the coin choice.

Nobody wants to consider it, but I say seating is not tuning at all.
I think seating adjustments are primarily affecting bullet bore interface.
At optimum for a particular bullet and bore, the bullets slip right into the bore without an inconsistent resistance. That's where a seating issue is cleared.
And I believe that if you measured/recorded barrel vibrations, as Harold Vaughn did, you could identify where optimum seating is, based on the measure.

Where you're not shooting a tiny underbore, that needs high starting pressure to reach competitive pressure, then you're likely to find optimum seating well off the lands(OTL). Once you find this, you will not have to fiddle with seating again for that bullet, for the accurate life of that barrel. Well, that is if you keep using THAT bullet. This is because the ever receding lands are mated to that bullet.
The optimum land relationship is maintained.

With this, it doesn't matter what your powder or load is, optimum seating will fall right where testing shows it to be for this bullet and that finished barrel. The only trick to this, in a sense, is that full seating testing has to actually be done to see this. 99.x% of reloaders are never doing this, and of the .x% who do, they don't do it correctly. They're merely trying to 'tune' with seating. To find better than powder alone, instead of actually finding best seating (regardless of tune). In other words, they cannot separate seating and tuning in their minds.

But try this; imagine seating as you would consider swapping primers.
One of the primers could turn out the clear winner for you, but is that tuning?
I think most would agree that it is perhaps optimizing ignition,, clearing a less than optimum condition, and not tuning. Yet it's important, can have a big impact on results, and you should optimize it,, like seating.
 
Each load i chose as "the best" gets tinkered with on seating and neck tension.
Neck tension has become more of a concern to me for accuracy.
I shoot touch 6bra or hard jam ppc & 30br that's kinda a gimmie.
I am just curious, dependent on projectile, what do you find the distance between touch and hard jam to be? .100? Just curious as to your findings
 
I am just curious, dependent on projectile, what do you find the distance between touch and hard jam to be? .100? Just curious as to your findings
Find touch .. I do the bolt fall method, (wheeler method i believe) stripped bolt, little less than drag (falls freely)
Hard jam i use bolt to push long seated bullet in.
Due to the bullet sticking in the lands it'll pull out. So I Keep seating shorter, looking at the space the bolt handle needs to go to lock. When i get it seated just right the handle will barely click in. That's hard jam to me.
Know there measurement before loading it !

My 30 br i seat several thousandths out and the bolt pushes it up when I'm shooting. That's hard hard jam !

I haven't looked for touch in so long...
I went and compared numbers touch to jam and I'm seeing
.028 difference on my 30br. Cline 108's

.016+ on ppc. Vld type fb 98 Dunoff's

Not sure how much the lands have moved.
.100 is gonna push into the case
(and stick in the lands !)
 

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