Is it worth bedding a plastic stock?

[spudgun]

I have a Savage 12 F/V, 6.5 CM. The gun shoots OK at 600 and 1000 yds but I am wondering if bedding and pillar the stock would help any.

I plan on shooting F class with this gun.

I know that it really did help on my light gun wood stocks that I bedded.

Any thoughts?

Anyone done one???

 

[joshb]

I’ve never done a plastic stock. That said, I can’t see how it could hurt. I’d rough up the plastic to give the epoxy something to grab a hold of.

 

[Walt Krafft]

What josh said. But if you are serious about competing, get a different stock. With the 6.5 you will be in F-open. I suggest you try a match as is before spending time and money bedding it.

 

[LVLAaron]

What kind of plastic stock? A cheap tupperware remington stock? I wouldn't put any time or effort into bedding one... but it would certainly help.

 

[john 800]

One thing to keep in mind: if you bed under the action you stiffen the stock where it has been bedded, you may want to look at filling the fore end partially with epoxy to stiffen it if it is flimsy at all. The savage tupperware stocks look an feel a little cheapbut they are usually well enough designed and reinforced that they can be made to work. You will have time into it, but probably not alot of money, so wether it is worth it just depends on how much time you are willing to put in.

 

[Sandstorm]

Get another stock...youl be much happier.

 

[Fast14riot]

If you have some steel tubing and some JB Weld, but can't afford a new stock, I suggest relieving . 060" of material, with holes going in opposite directions (for mechanical adhesion) and nothing wrong with bedding under the front action screws and the middle of the action, free floating the tang.

 

[Carl S]

A customer asked me the same question recently.cheap plastic thing.i told him don't waste his money.look for something else.he found a hs precision for half the price it would have cost to bed his old one..Rem 700.

 

[big5ifty]

I've rigidised a plastic stock, Hogue overmoulded on a Howa, bedded barrel full length. I did not bed the action, it's already pillared.

Definitely an improvement over factory, eliminating crosshair jitters on a bipod.

Filling the fore-end without full length bedding does not stop scope jitter on a bipod.

Howa stock filling.

 

[Rockchuck]

No I tried to bed one of the plastic stocks. Filled the forearm also. The stock still twisted. Shooting from the bench worked ok. But when I added a bipod shooting in the field not so good.

 

[Spike A]

A friend of mine that was saving up for a better stock one time did most of the inside with fiberglass then just bedded the top of it for the action as his was very empty inside…. It actually turned out ok, he went to a hardware store and bought some aluminum rod and made his own pillars and such… he did eventually save up and buy a very nice McMillan … he said to him the only accuracy difference in the rifle was the full adjustability of the stock now…

 

[dthomas]

If you are looking for a cheap option get a Boyd's pro varmint and a 3 inch bag rider for the forend, bed the action and use it until you get the bug to build a full custom f class rifle.

 

[spudgun]

If you are looking for a cheap option get a Boyd's pro varmint and a 3 inch bag rider for the forend, bed the action and use it until you get the bug to build a full custom f class rifle.

I did 2, Boyds stocks on my other guns. This put me into LG class. Have been told that Factory class is off the shelf from the factory.

 

[ebb]

Dgd6mm Donny Jim and I talked about it at some length back many years ago. we took several carbon arrows and found a smaller diameter that would slip inside of a bigger arrow and Donny was going to use that to stiffen the forend. I think he went through with the project on one of his Savages. PM him and see if he did finish this project.

 

[Sandstorm]

If your shooting F-Class and want to be competitive or actually win a match. You will be frustrated to no end. I know from experience a bit and that was shooting a fairly good factory Tikka A1x. It would shoot a clean every once in a while, but the barrel heat and sporadic high 9s and low 9s will kill your game. You need good top notch equipment to beat the competition out there, it’s crazy how good a lot of the guys and gals that are winning shoot. Just my observation from being in the game a while.. YMMV. as always. Some fellow’s can shoot a pop gun and win it seams sometimes lol

 

[David Milisock]

I have a Savage 12 F/V, 6.5 CM. The gun shoots OK at 600 and 1000 yds but I am wondering if bedding and pillar the stock would help any.

I plan on shooting F class with this gun.

I know that it really did help on my light gun wood stocks that I bedded.

Any thoughts?

Anyone done one???

That depends, one that was designed to simply be used as a pillar mount platform most likely not. One used an an average factory rifle most likely yes.

 

[ROBARRC50]

I would make sure barrel is floating generously in a plastic stock just put a little marine tex in recoil lug area. I believe those stocks come with pillars already installed. If your action scews stay torqued while shooting its probably fine. Your going to have to be gentle holding that setup useing a bipod to not torque the stock as it is flimsy. You say rifle shoots ok . What do your 100 yard groups look like not just a cherry picked group but a honest average. What do your 600 and 1000 yard groups look like? Factory ammo or reloads

 

[Bill K]

There is a fit in add on, for sale by a company ( Can not remember who) that gives you fillers to add weight and take out the flex on the savage stocks.
Or you can fill those areas with bedding material to do the same, can not hurt and it can help, with the stock being better.
Or you can look into buying a Stocky or Boyd's stock and really make the action work better.

 

[ben lurkin]

I went down this rabbit hole years ago. Spent a bunch of time and a fair amount of $ on bedding compound with less than satisfactory results. Take your plastic stock off, place it across the nearest set of train tracks so you won’t be tempted to reuse it, and replace it with something, anything else. In the end if I had picked up a minimum wage job to cover the time spent on mine, saved the cost of what is probably $80 in bedding compound these days and especially the aggravation of that exercise; I would have been light years ahead. Learn from my stupidity!

 

[K22]

I've pillar bedded some Remington plastics stocks and it helped tighten the groups. However, I did not shoot these rifles off a bipod. I shot them off shooting cross sticks and they are used strictly for varmint hunting not competition. Eventually however, I replaced those cheap stock with Bell and Carlson Medalist stocks and experience significant improvement in precision.

The problem with the injection molded plastic stocks is they are not stiff enough and can twist when loaded against a bipod which I understand is the shooting procedure in F class shooting.

If you're getting into competition, I would opt for a high-quality after-market stock.