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Is Chris Long (Techshooter) still about?

So, many a shooter has followed this theory and has been satisfied with the results. Along comes a naysayer who wants mathematical proof. Who cares. He may have simply made some experiments and found it worked for him. He might never have even tried to prove in other than makin a hundred different experiments.

Bottom line is if it works for you then use it. If you can't make it work then don't.

I don't blame him for not answering a lot of what I call smart-ass questions. People who want to play "Gotcha" need to get a life.
 
So, many a shooter has followed this theory and has been satisfied with the results. Along comes a naysayer who wants mathematical proof. Who cares. He may have simply made some experiments and found it worked for him. He might never have even tried to prove in other than makin a hundred different experiments.

Bottom line is if it works for you then use it. If you can't make it work then don't.

I don't blame him for not answering a lot of what I call smart-ass questions. People who want to play "Gotcha" need to get a life.
I use the "Chris Long spreadsheet" and "QuickLOAD" to identify possible nodes. What I have found that its not perfect but very close.. In researching the theory I have found numerous references to the speed of sound in various materials. Most charts show Stainless is about 4% slower than 1% carbon steel.
Most Barrels are some variation of 41XX chromoly or 416 Stainless Steel. I finally had and epiphany with two near identical Remington 700's chambered in 300 RUM.

The Carbon steel barrel: 212 ELDX, 99.6 grains of LRT 3000 FPS with a calculated barrel exit time of 1.325 milliseconds, .5 MOA at 200 Yds

The Stainless steel barrel: 212 ELDX, 97.5 grains of LRT 2926 FPS with a calculated barrel exit time of 1.372 milliseconds, .5 MOA at 200 Yds

Swap the ammo between rifles and you will be lucky to shoot a 2 MOA.

I have 4 .308 Winchesters one Steel and three Stainless steel. I applied my 4% (Barrel exit time) theory and its scarry close.

If you need something to keep you awake at night watch this:

My quest is to build an instrument (Arduino based) and test the barrel when it comes off the lathe threaded and chambered.

What is the speed of sound in that barrel at 30, 60 and 90 degrees F.

To Chris Long, its much harder to break trail. Thanks for having the courage to bring attention to this concept.

Tim Shamblin
40 years reloading.
 
Good point about the difference of the speed of sound.
With the timing of nodes in single digit microseconds, the value used for the speed of sound needs to be very close.

Using GRT's predicted OBT loads, I've found them to be either right on or within a few 10ths. [Note: This is for 223 with 1/2 MOA accuracy level].
 
The OP made a lot of accusations but never attempted to prove or disprove anything that Chris long stated. So was this just hand waving about hand waving. What exactly is hand waving?
 
There was very little theory in the paper to challenge. No references to more detailed explanation of his 'filter' model or of his Matlab model. There has been no experimental work to show that the theory is valid - that is, that the phenomenon described in the theory actually exist and their effects are as stated.

I like to keep an open mind, even for a theory as arm-waving as this one, with no mathematical validity whatsoever than I can determine. I would like a more detailed explanation so that I can see the error in my ways before declaring the errors in the OBT theory.... but Chris Long does not reply to emails and it seems he no longer frequents this forum.
Dang! The NIH, CDC, FEMA, WHO and most governors all use that exact same, “ignore” strategy when questioned.
But they do publicly insist we trust the science...which of course, happens to be whatever they say it is.
Don’t know Chris at all, but the man has more credibility with me than any of the above mentioned dignitaries.
 
The OP made a lot of accusations but never attempted to prove or disprove anything that Chris long stated. So was this just hand waving about hand waving. What exactly is hand waving?
I can envision it being a bunch of arm waving- just like he would do at them punk ass kids driving by too fast
 
I have been trying to get more information about the Optimum Barrel Time theory that Chris Long invented back in 2016. The paper on his website is questionable in a number of respects and I have tried to get in touch with him, but no response. The last time the website was updated was also back in 2016, and the last time he posted on this forum was in 2016, so perhaps he just lost interest or he not with us any more. Anybody know....?
seems many of us have unsuccessfully tried to get in touch with Chris. If you end up contacting him, please do share details of your discussions/learnings on this forum. It would have been so much better if Chris had made himself available more. I appreciate him having spent time to help shooters, but he should also figure out a way to provide clarifications and more explanation. I agree with your assessment that the paper does not provide any details on the underlying model/data. Not to say, he is wrong, but just saying he needs to be more transparent.
 
seems many of us have unsuccessfully tried to get in touch with Chris. If you end up contacting him, please do share details of your discussions/learnings on this forum. It would have been so much better if Chris had made himself available more. I appreciate him having spent time to help shooters, but he should also figure out a way to provide clarifications and more explanation. I agree with your assessment that the paper does not provide any details on the underlying model/data. Not to say, he is wrong, but just saying he needs to be more transparent.
Maybe he doesn't want to discuss it with you. What makes you think you have some kind of claim on his time?
 

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