Is 200 yds possible?

[ms6852]

Hey guys as I posted earlier I purchased a 513T remington with the redfield peep sights. And she is truly accurate. I found that my shot groups were alot tighter than some of the guys using a scope were at 100 yds. My question is two fold. Will it be possible to shoot 200 yds with this rifle? And, if it is so if I would decide to buy a scope what would you recommend? I notice that it is tapped for a scope but they are spaced very far apart.
Comments would be appreciated. I doubt that I will replace the peep sights, I do really like them, but was curious as to the type of scope placed on this rifles.

 

[Travelor]

First addressing the 200 yard issue. You will just have to try it and see. The reason I say this is that some guns shoot great at 100 yards and then just fall apart at 200 yards. Also, when you start shooting at 200 yards, the ammo becomes a very large part of the results. Normally, better ammo makes for better 200 yard results.

I am the Match Director for our Club's 200 yard rim fire prone match. What I have seen is that guns with a twist rate of 16"-17" and higher end Eley ammo prevail.

Concerning sights. My 513T's have the barrels drilled and tapped for the older long target scopes such as Lyman and Unertl. I would hate to see a good shooting 513T get drilled and tapped in the action. My advise would be to check the Forums and GunBroker for one and be sure to remember that you will need special bases to mount the scope to the barrel. ,You should be able to get these through Champion's Choice.)

Also, it takes about 27 MOA of elevation change from a 50 yard zero with standard velocity ammo to be zero'd for 200 yards.

Shooting at 200 yards with a 22 is a real intersting and rewarding experience. Go for it!

 

[ms6852]

I will not tap or drill the receiver. Are any of your shooters shooting 200 yds using just the peep sights or do they all use scopes? As it is at 100 yds I am hitting bullseye about 15 out of 25 times but that is probably me due to my eyes. I am using the cheapest ammo at the moment from remington but will move up as soon as I get better on my technique as well. I will check champion out for the unertyl and lyman scopes. Thanks for the info.

 

[spclark]

200 yard rimfire around here is referred to as mini-Palma shooting practice.

What you learn by participating is great experience when you get to 1000 yards with a Palma rifle,155 grain .308, iron sights only) particularly regarding reading the wind.

 

[ms6852]

200 yard rimfire around here is referred to as mini-Palma shooting practice.

What you learn by participating is great experience when you get to 1000 yards with a Palma rifle,155 grain .308, iron sights only) particularly regarding reading the wind.

I will stick to the iron sights shooting rim fire is alot more exciting and complicated than I had ever expected.

 

[Travelor]

We have two iron sight shooters, one shooting a military training rifle and one shooting micrometer target sights. The military gun is doing rather poorly and the target shooter,currently the State Smallbore Champion) is doing quite well.

George

 

[LarryR53]

We just had our 200 yd rimfire match and about half the shooters,15-20) used iron sights. Many of them outshot the scope shooters. Some of these guys can SHOOT. They also have learned to read the wind which is huge in 200 yd rimfire. Go for it, its really fun.

 

[Austin]

Just for kicks,a few years ago i shot a rockchuck at 265yds with my dads old Sears and Roebuck mod.41 single shot with an old 4x15mm Bushnell Sportview scope.He was at the bottom of that little scope.It is still my best shot on a varmint with a short or long shot.

 

[ms6852]

Just for kicks,a few years ago i shot a rockchuck at 265yds with my dads old Sears and Roebuck mod.41 single shot with an old 4x15mm Bushnell Sportview scope.He was at the bottom of that little scope.It is still my best shot on a varmint with a short or long shot.

That was an amazing shot. Someone in the sniper forums conducted a study to see if the 22lr could actually penetrate several layers of clothing and still inflict some damage. This guy wrapped 3 layers of clothing around a turkey and shot at it from 200 yds. The bullet was able to penetrate through the layers of clothing and I believe the turkey also...not sure on the turkey though.

 

[snipersteve]

i have the basic standard barrelled, synthetic stocked Rem 597 and using eley tenex with a 3-9x40 bushnell banner. shooting off the bipod, i could easily hit full pop cans at 200-225yds and make them explode , this was fun and and the setup accurate enough to hit a crow-sized target i thought. i shot two crows; one 205yds and one at 190yds, both were broadside body shots and both flew away apparently unaffected despite loss of feathers and being knocked out of their trees :s its fun for reading the wind and cranking lots of elevation in, but for rimfire varminting, i take the 17hmr anymore

 

[sscoyote]

A couple years ago i was hunting coyotes with a buddy's kid. He had brought some model of Marlin 22 with him. He had a 3-9x Simmons on top, and a Harris bipod. it was quite a nice setup for a kid's rig really. As we were walking back to the truck i took a look thru the scope and it appeared that @ 9x the subtension between x-hair and plex post tip in this reticle was about 6 minutes. I told the kid who was somewhat versed in longer-range shooting that if he cranked the scope down to 3x it'd be about 18 MOA,3x6) and oughtta get him close to 300 yds. or so. We had to walk thru a priaire dog town so we stopped on a mound and i lasered a couple PD's at 290-something,been awhile so can't remember exactly). Anyways this kid gets setup off the mound prone, and shoots. I'm watching with binocs. and he hits just short of the dog. he adjusts slightly and nails this PD and it rolls off the back of the mound. Momentarily it runs back up on top of the mound rim and hesitates just long enuf for the kid to get off a second shot and he nails him again--falling off the back of the mound now dead. His buddy comes running out to check him out and a shot or 2 later he nails this dog too, and it rolls off the back of the mound. I can still remember walking up to that mound and thinking no way there are 2 dead adult dogs off the back of this mound, but we have the pics to prove it,can't load them tho, since i'm so computer illiterate.

This kid now works for PS and no matter how many thousand yd. shots he makes with the custom rigs he may build, i bet he'll never forget "The Day of the 300-yd. .22 Long Rifle PD's."

 

[Joseph2097]

200yds with a 22rim-fire = A B S O L U T L Y !!!!!!
We shot a 200 yd match here in CT a few years ago, in honor
of a W W II vet, I think his last name was BARRY.
The most fun you will likely ever have with a 22lr rimfire.
WIND, will either make-you, or break-you!!
Oh, and yes, I did use my Anschutz1913/Leupold EFR-6.5 X20
with some Eley ammunition purchased from Bob Collins.
Although I did not score very well at 200yds-
it was a LOT OF FUN!!! 372 - 9x's
Joseph2097
Shoot Safe & think "X's"

 

[Rtheurer]

we shot our first 200 yard Rimfire match of the winter this Saterday. With the thanksgiving weekend in full swing we only had a few shooters. two of us used iron sights and one a Unertle scope.

The guy with the Unertle got a H&R M12 from the CMP and a couple cases of the old Federal CMP ammo and it shoots great at 200 yards. Im very suprised at how well it shoots for the amount of money he has into the gun. and it shoots cheap ammo really well. Mean while im using TenX and an Anshutz. Big price differance all the way around.
Pistoleer sells the official 200 yard smallbore target or the repair centers. A 21 is the target number. the X ring is 2" the ten ring is 4" and it takes about 18 to 20 MOA from 100 yard zero.

Lots of fun!!!

RussT

 

[longlowdog]

Ms6852
A very good friend of mine had the misfortune to injure a lady with the .22rf. He had a richochet at 90 deg' to point of impact on a rock and hit her some 400yards away. The bullet travelled from her knee to her hip beneath the skin. Now I really do believe the warnings printed on the packet about the bullet travelling 1.5k.

 

[JerryB]

I had read this post the other day, and it got me to thinking. Why not try it for myself? I accuired a beat up 1942 Winchester Model 75T a while back, what a neat gun! Nothing like todays stuff but it is an accurate little booger!

Anyway, Old Lyman iron sights and all, 200yds is a blast, what a challenge to shoot on a windy day. I think I am hooked! I've got a Rock River Natl. Match rifle I shoot all the time, and I must say, shooting the .22lr at that range is such a challenge that the RR might be spending some more time in the safe lol. Its gotta make me better when she comes back out though.

Time to start looking for a target rifle. Is the CZ target gun easily adaptable for good irons, or should I just pick up an Anschutz?

WHAT A BLAST!

 

[Clark]

I have seen someone kill a prairie dog at 250 yards with 17HMR. It takes a few feet of windage and elevation.

I talked to an old guy that claims to have hit a ground squirrel at 400 yards with 22LR. He says it was on the side of a mound. He gave 14 feet of windage and elevation. There were other squirrels between the one he was trying to hit and where he was aiming on the mound. It took and hour of shooting to finally hit it.

A decade ago there was a story that a bull African elephant was taken with a 22LR.

Those are low percentage shots.

I can hit things with 22LR out to 75 yards.
If dust flys up and it is a semi auto, I can zero in with several shots on squirrels out to 100 yards, even in the wind.

 

[Rtheurer]

Jerry Check Post #13

The HR M12,5200) from the CMP,Civilian Marksmanship Program) Is a good way to go. Also they have some Kimbers. Or look for a older used Anshutz.
Yea it is very Addicting!!!

Pistolleer has A 21,200yd) Small bore targets on hand. The Center will do as they have all the aiming black. They are very cheap and you dont have to get 100 from them if you just want a few.

RT

 

[JerryB]

Hey Rtheurer,

Thanks for the info, I will look it up as soon as I finish posting this. But I am not sure about the avaliability to me for the CMP rifle. Do I have to be a member to buy it, or can anybody do it. I have never shot a CMP match so I don't have a membership. I have never shot competitively, I just aspire to: I'm 19 and figuring out how to get into competitive shooting.

This is just too fun, I enjoy loading for my other rifles, but sometimes its fun to just shoot and not worry about searching for the brass lol.

Thanks again for the info! I'll post up soon again with more questions probably.

Jerry

 

[ba_50]

The last time out my CZ 452A and SS10X put 10 shots into 4 1/2' @ 200 yards with Federal 711B Gold Medal ammo.

 

[shoerjbh]

Rtheurer

Your question made me get to thinking about when I shot in the Schuetzen matches. I dug out my target certification.
In 1992, AT Schuetzen match @ 200 yd, at the Fairfax rod gun club.
I shot a 5 shot group that measured 1.32 in.
On that same day on their regulation Schuetzen score target .
I shot a 10 shot score target, that scored 244 with 4 centers out of a possible 250.
With an old 44 Stevens. With Ely ammunition.
So yes, Rimfires will shoot a 200 yd.