Does anyone know if 8208 XBR can be used in place of 8208? Is there a big difference? I have an 8 pound jug I would like to use for my 22-250 Hornaby 40 grain varment rounds. Gophers really feared the loads with Varget.
IMR 8208 vs 8208 XBR
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46and2
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I'm pretty sure they're the same damn thing. So...yes.
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IMR 8208 XBR®
IMR 8208 XBR is an accurate-metering, super short-grained extruded rifle powder was designed expressly for match, varmint, and AR sniper cartridges. As a medium burn speed propellant, XBR is ideally suited for cartridges like the 223 Remington/5.56mm, 308 Winchester/7.62mm NATO and the 6mm PPC...
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Depending on the "vintage" of 8208 you are comparing to present day IMR 8208 XBR would determine if they are in fact "identical". - Back in the 1980's there was a spherical (ball powder) version of 8208 that was marketed by Thunderbird Cartridge Co. and some other suppliers. - This was a Military powder that was either repacked or "pulled-down & then repacked. - I'm sure it was "close" to the present day IMR 8208 XBR in burn rate, but not exactly. Also when the IMR version first came out there was quiet a bit of lot to lot variation in that particular powder which has long been remedied. - The IMR 8208 XBR of present day is excellent as far as lot-to-lot consistency and yields some excellent accuracy in smaller bore & well balanced cartridges (not over-bore) from .17 up through .30 caliber.
Is your 8lb in White jug Label IMR-8208, Military Surplus Gunpowder?
I received a notification from IMR some time ago that the powder I had was dangerous, IMR 4700 SSC . They offered to replace my half used 8 pound with any other powder they carried. That’s why I have the 8208 XBR. It came from the IMR Company. Thanks for all your answers. I’m feeling good about using this as if were just 8208 as per my Lee reloading manual.
searcher
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I bought a number of 8-lb jugs labeled "8208" with a white label back around 8-10 years ago from Bruno Shooters supply. Great stuff - but it is NOT IMR 8208 XBR, but rather pull-down military powder.
RegionRat
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I agree with @LA50SHOOTER and @searcher
There is older 8208 pull down, and then there is the version we get now which also says XBR in the name.
https://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/imr-8208-load-data-not-imr-8208-xbr.3843778/
There is older 8208 pull down, and then there is the version we get now which also says XBR in the name.
https://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/imr-8208-load-data-not-imr-8208-xbr.3843778/
AFAIK IMR 8208 (the original Dupont product) is now sold as LT30 and LT32 (same process for both, faster lots get labeled LT30), and IMR 8208 XBR is an ADI product that is horrifyingly mislabled, and should have been called H8208, since it's made to the same process as all the other H-Series extruded powders that Hodgdon resells from ADI.
Also, AFAIK, IMR 8208 was never sold to the general public as such, but as T322 and T32 (pulldown powder). So if you have something that came in a jar or jug with a factory label that says 8208, it ought to be IMR 8208XBR.
Also, AFAIK, IMR 8208 was never sold to the general public as such, but as T322 and T32 (pulldown powder). So if you have something that came in a jar or jug with a factory label that says 8208, it ought to be IMR 8208XBR.
I recommend you go to the Hodgdon reloading site and see if they say XBR will work for you.
INShooter
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Several bits of incorrect information posted in this thread. IMR 8208XBR was developed as a replacement for the original 8208 stick powder. Which was pull down military powder. This was highly prized by BR shooters. The new powder never caught on. Later LT32 was developed as the second replacement for the original version. It has achieved some success. Lou Murdica was the principal behind both replacements.
The were many versions of the original. The T powders were one of these.
The were many versions of the original. The T powders were one of these.
A lot of wrong info. on this.... T32 was the best tested of the lots of pull down powder the rest was sold as 8208 in windshield washer jugs. The First lot of of 8208 XBR was useable in the PPC but the lots kept getting slower to where it is today and are no way even close to the Reclaim 8208.... If you have some of the old stuff you better have a set of screens as I still have to screen out all the junk that is in it. I have globs of grease and paper and other powder in it. What I had was a very good lot...... BTW it was sold as fertilizer .... jim
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As you know that label also had lot # and certain lot # shot better than others. That was value from Bruno. I purchased 64lb but not from Bruno.
searcher
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Good stuff, for sure! I'm down to my last couple of jugs and it will be a sad day when gone. My PPC, .223's and .20 Practical all love it.
We have Hodgdon to thank for all this confusion. IMR 8208XBR is an ADI powder developed for Military purposes per ADI. It is a powder similar to Benchmark, H322, and to a lesser extent Varget so they chose to market it as an IMR powder.
As noted Lou did test 8208XBR and the 2009(?) Hodgdon Annual has an article on it. He also worked with LT 32.
Personally, I don’t believe much of what Hodgdon puts out. But I love 8208xbr.
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As noted Lou did test 8208XBR and the 2009(?) Hodgdon Annual has an article on it. He also worked with LT 32.
Personally, I don’t believe much of what Hodgdon puts out. But I love 8208xbr.
Hodgdon Releases Impressive New IMR 8208 XBR Powder « Daily Bulletin
Hodgdon Powder Co. has unveiled a brand new powder, IMR 8208 XBR. From early reports, this is an exceptional new propellant that may change the way the game is played in short-range benchrest.
New Accurate LT-32 Powder Coming in January « Daily Bulletin
Midsouth Shooters Supply is now taking advance orders for the new Accurate LT-32 Powder, with initial deliveries expected in January 2013. Price for a 1-lb container is $25.12, while an 8-lb jug runs $190.50.
A excellent powder that was brought back to public with a few modifications for Austria Defense Forces MK 262 ammo
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