I'm at a loss

[DLT]

A 4 mph full switch will move a 103 close to 17" I think.

If I had to bet on it though I bet you dialed the wrong dope or didn't zero the turret after your last outing and put the new dope on top of the old dope.
Pretty easy to do.

That will cause a few minutes of head scratching

 

[big5ifty]

Too much coffee?

No such thing as too much coffee. Too little is always the problem.

I'm with DHuffman on this.

Can you remember if you dialled the range in on the steel target, without first resetting the scope to dial zero ?

The fact that you have no zero stop makes the mistake easier to execute.

If you go back to 600 now, and it shoots like it should, then chances are you double-dialled.

 

[DHuffman]

There was zero wind. I just can't phathom my normal 600 dope being that far off.

No flags, and "maybe" a 1 mph wind.

Zero wind then maybe 1 mph, no flags, no berm to spot misses, so you can "feel" the wind at the line and you're assuming it was the same all 600 yards out to the target?
Obviously I wasn't there but "I've been there" many times.
Get a good wind flag and use it everytime you shoot. It will shock you what you've been missing.

Why is it so hard for everyone to believe he missed the plate under these circumstances? A Dasher, Bra (insert your favorite 6 mm cartridge shooting a 103-105 here) isn't magic and is easily move by any wind.

 

[Texas Solo]

Good luck. Looking for a positive update

Can't get to range until Sunday.
It's definitely an elevation issue, not windage. I'll say it again..there was NO wind.
You all have thinking that I may have double dialed. But I remember going back to zero and starting over. So, maybe not.
Sunday will tell the story.

 

[C.E.Smith043]

Also, no wind!

Not trying to be rude but there's no such thing. There's wind, youre just ignoring it.

 

[DShortt]

Out of all the difficult people to reason with, the guy who's reflection I see in the mirror has proven to be the most difficult adversary.

 

[HTSmith]

Can't get to range until Sunday.
It's definitely an elevation issue, not windage. I'll say it again..there was NO wind.
You all have thinking that I may have double dialed. But I remember going back to zero and starting over. So, maybe not.
Sunday will tell the story.

I have no clue, but the story sure is interesting. Please do update us.

 

[BP1]

Today was the worst day of shooting I've ever had. I can't figure out what's wrong.
3 weeks ago I shot a 598 with lots of X's and took 2nd place. Came home, did the normal
cleaning routine and put rifle in safe. Took it out this AM and went to a new range. Shooting steel
at 600, 800, 900 & 1000. I was excited as I've never shot past 600. I had dope off a ballistic app to get me started.
Started at 600 with my normal 600 dope. ???? Missed the whole 24" piece of steel. shot 3 more with the same result.
OK, now I'm worried. Checked scope and base, all tight. Checked action screws, all good. I didn't even bother to try 800 or beyond, what's the point? Something is seriously wrong.
Came home and checked headspace, thinking the barrel nut could have loosened. (Savage #12 target action) Nope, head space was exactly where I initially set it at .002". I also bore scoped it, didn't see anything crazy. PLEASE, DON'T EVERYONE JUMP ON THE CARBON RING WAGON . So what's left? Possibly the scope has died internally. I did check and the crosshairs are moving in all 4 directions as they should. Possible that it's just not holding zero??
I'm going to my home range in the AM and will shoot at 100 yds. At that distance, it's a 1/4 MOA rifle. 6 Dasher.
Shillen barrel 28" 1/7.5 105 Berger Hybrids, Varget.

Any thoughts other than a bad scope that could do this? You don't go from 1/2moa at 600 to totally missing a 24" piece of steel.
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Have you checked where your lands are now..as opposed to where they were at the beginning with the original bullet you used?

 

[Texas Solo]

Not trying to be rude but there's no such thing. There's wind, youre just ignoring it.

I've been doing this a long time.
Yes, according to physics or whatever, there has to be wind.
BUT, when we say no wind, we mean none of consequence. Be real, a 1 mph wind isn't going to blow a bullet completely off target at 600yds.
I'm not ignoring anything. I was there, you were not.

 

[Texas Solo]

Have you checked where your lands are now..as opposed to where they were at the beginning with the original bullet you used?

Yes, they're fine. Again, that would cause a grouping issue. It would not create a total miss at 600yds.

 

[Texas Solo]

Out of all the difficult people to reason with, the guy who's reflection I see in the mirror has proven to be the most difficult adversary.

What are you suggesting?

 

[Evan]

Do you have a 100yd range to go check it at? Anytime something odd happens, I double check at 100. Do a box test if you think your scope or rifle is bad.

 

[Kracken McGraw]

Just tell the better-half that we all said it’s time for new scope.

 

[Texas Solo]

Do you have a 100yd range to go check it at? Anytime something odd happens, I double check at 100. Do a box test if you think your scope or rifle is bad.

Sunday AM. Doing just that.

 

[Texas Solo]

Just tell the better-half that we all said it’s time for new scope.

If this one is dead, they'll be a Nightforce Comp in my future.

 

[Hoekight]

Had a friend experience that and he had a bur on his crown. He didn’t remember doing it or how it happened, but it happened. Got that straightened out and it went back to business as usual. I’m curious of the outcome. I hope you find the problem and let us know.

 

[enrique]

A lot of people when using shot marker target dial it down a couple MOA so you don’t shoot out the bullseye. So if that were the case and you were shooting an actual 600 yds you might not be hitting steel. I had that issue once, in the beginning and wondered what the heck happened to my dope? Now at tourneys I always how far shot marker is offset

 

[charlie b]

I'm also curious. I've had similar happen, but, it was me and scope settings.

I'd go back to 100 and start over.

Good luck tomorrow.

 

[DShortt]

What are you suggesting?

Simply that accepting that I have overlooked something has been a problem.

 

[Texas Solo]

Simply that accepting that I have overlooked something has been a problem.

It's very possible. Sunday will tell.
Actually, I'm hoping I screwed up the dope. Could have been off 1 full turret rotation = 10 moa. At 600yds, that 60". I'm assuming high.