If one was looking for a little more speed.......
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Murray Brook
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I get great velocity in my 6ppc Sako with LT-32 and the 60 gr Sierra Var
CJ6
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What's your charge and velocity now?
R.Morehouse
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LT-32 will give you more speed with less powder than 133. Accuracy trumps speed. Lt-32 can be a little easier to work with ( IMO ), it only takes using a 4" drop tube to easily fill any amount you would need to use. I use LT-32 but just picked up a batch of 133 after I saw where the price of the LT-32 has gone. Whidden had the best price on the 133 when I was looking.
Regards
Rick
Regards
Rick
SteveOak
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I can appreciate the question but I don't want to bias any responses nor see the thread dragged down into the weeds.
I am asking for the sage input of the experts here, or if not experts, those with more experience than I with a 6 PPC, what powder they would look to for more MV with a 65gr Berger BT and 205(M) primers.
Scott 4197 makes my 6PPC a rocket! Not sure about availability these days.
Paul
Paul
https://www.barnesbullets.com/produ...ameter=0-243&attribute_pa_bullet-weight-gr=58 I have no idea if this is an acceptable solution, but where my mind went, cause it sounds like more powder may be too much
You didn't say what velocity you're looking for.......SO...follow the other "Hellfire and Brimstone" loads that seem to be popular these days....other shooters are using like 30.5gn to 31.5gn of VV-133. Some shooters say you "just gotta have it" to get to 3450-3500+fps with 65-67gn bullets.
Good luck and stay safe.
Good luck and stay safe.
SteveOak
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Rather than seeking a particular speed, I am asking the experience of the shooters here as to a powder with which the have found more velocity than with VV133 under a 65gr bullet. I presume they would not share load they didn't like.
There ain't but so much powder you can burn in a 20-22" barrel........All the powders in the suitable burn rates are gonna give about the same performance.. I think if there was a powder that gave appreciably more velocity than VV-133,they would certainly be using it........some shooters think speed is everything. Maybe go to a lighter bullet and/or a longer barrel with little slower powder.
Good luck.
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Never use Pistol/Shotgun powder in Centerfire rifle loads.
WyleWD
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In my experience with LT32 and N133, one of those powders will give you more speed than the other. If you have N133, buy a pound of LT32 and do a work up with it with a good chronograph and see where either tops out at in your barrel and component set up. AND record the lot number of each powder. The next lot you buy probably will not give you the same speed. As an example, I have a lot of N133 that (out of 4 different barrels) shows about 40-55+fps faster than the lot that I prefer to use, and no matter what charge it shows less accuracy than the previous and current lot.
What ever you decide to do just be careful with your load workups. JME. WD
Lt 32 lt30
wildcatter
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H322 if you can find it, with both 65 and 62 grain, I've had excellent accuracy @ over 3500 fps
Accurate 2015 is another, but it can be very spiky in temp swings.
Accurate 2015 is another, but it can be very spiky in temp swings.
J.D.Erwin
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Most experience PPC shooter are looking for small repeatable group size, MV has never handed anyone some wood at the end of the day IMO n133 or lt32 are the two powders that all of my PPC barrels seems to like and perform the best. Hope you find what your looking for.
A.S.S.S.
Jerry
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Jerry
What speeds are you normally getting from your present load ?
SteveOak
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New (to me) rifle. Looking for a powder to start with. I have sufficient quantity of N133 but if there is a powder likely to give me a little more velocity I might as well start there.
The PO made his own bullets so no help there. I will shoot 300 yard varmint benchrest and chose a BT to get a little more BC, perhaps at the expense of a bit of accuracy but for the game at hand it is a good tradeoff.
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Well, I'm not so sure you will find much more speed from either of the other usable powders. I'm getting 3541 FPS with 30.3 gr. of VV-N133 and backed down due to better accuracy @ 29.7 gr. with Bart's 68 gr. Ultras. I probably could have went on up a little more than 30.3 gr. without seeing pressure signs on my brass or primers but decided to stop since my accuracy was stellar at 29.7 gr.
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wildcatter
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I think you'll find it very hard to outperform N133 in a serious target gun chambered in 6ppc. It is probably the most documented wining powder of all time in a target load, but definitely in 6ppc.
Even in a varmint rifle, the speed you can gain with any other powder will be unoticed in the field. The only way you could see a gain, is on a chronograph, not in flatter shooting, even if it could shoot as accurate.
SteveOak
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3,500+ with 68's, that is more than I am hoping for.
I would be more than happy with that.
@wildcatter Yeah, it is a serious target gun, although I will be using it as a learner gun at a second tier game.
Sounds like N133 is a good place to start.
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