Ideal LV stock weight

[Scarab]

What is a good target weight for a LV stock? I have only ever shot score and a brief stint in 600 yard.
I have a stock I made that weighs 1lb 5oz pillar bedded. What would be the ideal LV barrel contour/weight?
Jeremy

 

[Kyle Schultz]

If you're targeting a 10.5# LV or Sporter rifle, you need to be around 22 oz for the stock. So if your stock is 21 oz, you're good.

A good target for a LV barrel is 78 to 80 oz. Depending upon how you cut it, the length will be around 22 inches.

Good luck.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Make everything as light as you can get it so you can get as much barrel as possible. I like 5.5lb barrels

 

[Kyle Schultz]

The following schedule may be of benefit to you. This is for a LV rifle I'm currently having built. All the values, except for the Scarbrough stock, are based on actual measurements. The stock weight is a guess.

Note this setup includes an Ezell tuner. If you omit the tuner, you gain a lot of flexibility as to the final stock, barrel, and scope options. Good luck.

 

[Scarab]

The following schedule may be of benefit to you. This is for a LV rifle I'm currently having built. All the values, except for the Scarbrough stock, are based on actual measurements. The stock weight is a guess.

Note this setup includes an Ezell tuner. If you omit the tuner, you gain a lot of flexibility as to the final stock, barrel, and scope options. Good luck.

That’s good info. Does a mirage shield count as rifle weight?

 

[Dusty Stevens]

That’s good info. Does a mirage shield count as rifle weight?

Yes

 

[jackieschmidt]

Back when everybody used the old 36x BR Leupold scopes and tuners were not allowed, you could get by with a stock as much as 28 ounces. The old McMillians were very popular.

As newer, and heavier scopes came on the market, and shooters discovered tuners, the stock builders followed with stocks more in the 22 ounce range.

The first super light stocks I remember were the original Borden Andamovich (sp) from the early 2000’s. One of the best stocks ever built. Pat Byrne and Gene Bukys both had rifles built on these and they were really nice.

 

[Scarab]

Back when everybody used the old 36x BR Leupold scopes and tuners were not allowed, you could get by with a stock as much as 28 ounces. The old McMillians were very popular.

As newer, and heavier scopes came on the market, and shooters discovered tuners, the stock builders followed with stocks more in the 22 ounce range.

The first super light stocks I remember were the original Borden Andamovich (sp) from the early 2000’s. One of the best stocks ever built. Pat Byrne and Gene Bukys both had rifles built on these and they were really nice.

Be nice to get ahold of the molds for those! I was talking to Jim about the stocks, he wasn’t sure where the molds were. Robertson maybe? Mine are compression molded in 1 piece. I’m fighting tooling, compression molding really needs to be done in Aluminum molds.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

Be nice to get ahold of the molds for those! I was talking to Jim about the stocks, he wasn’t sure where the molds were. Robertson maybe? Mine are compression molded in 1 piece. I’m fighting tooling, compression molding really needs to be done in Aluminum molds.

Cool! Is it feasible to use a bolt in, etc, fixture to form specific inlets, or how would that be done? Thanks

 

[Scarab]

Cool! Is it feasible to use a bolt in, etc, fixture to form specific inlets, or how would that be done? Thanks

That would probably be a 3 piece mold. Two halves and the top, which would have the inlet in it. That’s 100% going to be cnc aluminum tooling at about 15-20K I was quoted if going the bolt in route and very difficult to make out of a wet layup 1 piece design.
You could do that with high temp carbon molds and pre preg material which allows you to hide all the seams. I have all the stuff for it and have tried it, pre preg is very expensive and somewhat inconsistent and heat required is hard on the molds. I’m a rookie in that department and there is a lot to learn to be successful.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

That would probably be a 3 piece mold. Two halves and the top, which would have the inlet in it. That’s 100% going to be cnc aluminum tooling at about 15-20K I was quoted if going the bolt in route and very difficult to make out of a wet layup 1 piece design.
You could do that with high temp carbon molds and pre preg material which allows you to hide all the seams. I have all the stuff for it and have tried it, pre preg is very expensive and somewhat inconsistent and heat required is hard on the molds. I’m a rookie in that department and there is a lot to learn to be successful.

Thanks. I'm looking to learn.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Back when everybody used the old 36x BR Leupold scopes and tuners were not allowed, you could get by with a stock as much as 28 ounces. The old McMillians were very popular.

As newer, and heavier scopes came on the market, and shooters discovered tuners, the stock builders followed with stocks more in the 22 ounce range.

The first super light stocks I remember were the original Borden Andamovich (sp) from the early 2000’s. One of the best stocks ever built. Pat Byrne and Gene Bukys both had rifles built on these and they were really nice.

I have a 30br in one of those stocks and ive had a bunch over the years. It was ny go-to stock before scoville hit the streets

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

I have a 30br in one of those stocks and ive had a bunch over the years. It was ny go-to stock before scoville hit the streets

Still a very good stock.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Still a very good stock.

Thats why its on my 30br!

 

[Alex Wheeler]

My best friend in middle school ended up working for Bob Scoville making his stocks with him. He made those stocks for about 9 years I believe, then moved to Canada. I tried to get him to carry on making them because there is a market but he just didnt have the interest. Very odd we both ended up in the same line of work after being apart for so long. Theres going to be a shortage of stocks, the pricing has been out of wack for a long time. What we are seeing is simple economics.

 

[Scarab]

I’m getting ready to sell a few of the ones I have made. I can say for certain that the amount of labor that goes into a cleared carbon stock is borderline not worth the price they bring, I can understand why someone would loose interest manufacturing them. I wanted a Scoville for awhile, never could find one so I decided to make my own.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

I’m getting ready to sell a few of the ones I have made. I can say for certain that the amount of labor that goes into a cleared carbon stock is borderline not worth the price they bring, I can understand why someone would loose interest manufacturing them. I wanted a Scoville for awhile, never could find one so I decided to make my own.

Dont price them that way. Time for things to change if we are to have stocks available again.

 

[LVLAaron]

That would probably be a 3 piece mold. Two halves and the top, which would have the inlet in it. That’s 100% going to be cnc aluminum tooling at about 15-20K I was quoted if going the bolt in route and very difficult to make out of a wet layup 1 piece design.
You could do that with high temp carbon molds and pre preg material which allows you to hide all the seams. I have all the stuff for it and have tried it, pre preg is very expensive and somewhat inconsistent and heat required is hard on the molds. I’m a rookie in that department and there is a lot to learn to be successful.

15-20k to make an aluminum mold?

 

[Scarab]

15-20k to make an aluminum mold?

15-20K for a cnc cut polished mold with a class A finish. Set up for epoxy infusion and heated. 3 quotes and 4-5 others that wouldn’t do it.

 

[LVLAaron]

I should buy a CNC