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I want shiny brass. Stainless steel tumbler

Joe R said:
gilcarleton said:

I have a couple of questions about this subject. Do you clean the brass first with walnut shells? I have also been nervous about using any liquid to clean my brass. How to you dry it after cleaning and make sure it is truly dry before you start reloading? Thanks for the help.

Gil,
1 tablespoon of Dawn dish washing detergent and 1/4 teaspoon Lemi shine. I didn't use it anymore so I sold my corncob tumbler.


I was hesitant to use water also, but eventually came to the conclusion that it was the only way to get the brass clean. After you do it once you'll be hooked.

Do what Bayou says about the spin/dry method, but I also I dry my brass by putting on my (not the wife's) cookie tray and putting in the oven for 30 minutes on a 150 degree/low. By the way, 3 hours tumbling is way too long, 1 hour does the job. 3 hours will give your brass peening. That is when the cases smash into each other and form a slight ridge at the case mouth. That affect bullet release and accuracy.


Kindest regards,

Joe


IMHO I think 3 hours is long too, my brass is usually done in a hour or less and the inside of the cases are clean. I've also found that the shiner brass doesn't shoot any better either.
 
I live in FLA. Using a squirrel cage I seperate the brass from the ss pins. I drain the water out of the pail and give the brass a good spin this removes most of the water from both out and inside the case. Then place the brass on a towel in the driveway and let Mr Sun do the work. Doesn't take long in FLA.
 
jr600yd said:
I live in FLA. Using a squirrel cage I seperate the brass from the ss pins. I drain the water out of the pail and give the brass a good spin this removes most of the water from both out and inside the case. Then place the brass on a towel in the driveway and let Mr Sun do the work. Doesn't take long in FLA.

What's your address? ;D
 
I am glad that I found this post. I use to reload a lot but moved out of the country for a few years to Brazil and they do not allow guns so of course I had to drop out of it. Anyway, I am just getting back into it a and should pick up my custom rifle next week. I was also about to order a new vibrator cleaner but now I have decided to order a wet tumbler. Midway has a good sale right now on Frankford tumblers so I think I will order one. Thanks again for all of the help.
 
Here are the pins I use and none have ever lodged themselves in the primer pocket or firing pin hole.

HTH,

http://www.bullseye-reloading.com/
 
Joe R said:
gilcarleton said:

I have a couple of questions about this subject. Do you clean the brass first with walnut shells? I have also been nervous about using any liquid to clean my brass. How to you dry it after cleaning and make sure it is truly dry before you start reloading? Thanks for the help.

Thanks Joe. I took Bayou's and your advice and ordered a tumbler from Midway. I was just about to order a new vibrating one but after reading this post, changed my mind.
Gil,
1 tablespoon of Dawn dish washing detergent and 1/4 teaspoon Lemi shine. I didn't use it anymore so I sold my corncob tumbler.

I was hesitant to use water also, but eventually came to the conclusion that it was the only way to get the brass clean. After you do it once you'll be hooked.

Do what Bayou says about the spin/dry method, but I also I dry my brass by putting on my (not the wife's) cookie tray and putting in the oven for 30 minutes on a 150 degree/low. By the way, 3 hours tumbling is way too long, 1 hour does the job. 3 hours will give your brass peening. That is when the cases smash into each other and form a slight ridge at the case mouth. That affect bullet release and accuracy.


Kindest regards,

Joe
 
As stated before, 2 tbl spoons Dawn soap and 1/4 tsp of Lemi shine will do 100 .308 cases wonderfully. I have some never dull brass polish and when they come out of the SS thimbler tumbler and dry, you can polish one and not even see a difference between the two.
The Dawn, Lemi Shine and SST work good for me. Inside and out of cases and also the primer pocket. 4 hrs for 100 prices seems to be great.
 
Someone mentioned using dishwasher rinse agent to prevent waterspouts. Has anyone ever tried using white vinegar for this? I read somewhere that vinegar is a good substitute for rinse agent.
 
Too much lemishine will turn cases pink. My procedure is run tumbler for 30 min and let soak overnight, then run for around 1hr. I wash with ground water and my final step is soak with alcohol. Too much rotating makes necks have a hard rim to trim. I fill a 45ACP case with lemishine and that is enough for the job. Hope this helps.
 
Here is my routine.
1. Add my brass, fill tumbler(Thumlers high speed) up with cold water about 1" from the top, add 1.5-2 tbs of dawn, and 1/4 tbs of lemi shine.
2. Tumble for 3 or so hours ( I have little kids so sometimes so I don't use an exact time frame but some where between 3-5 hour).
3. Place tumbler under faucet and let warm water run into the tumbler until almost all of the soap bubbles are gone, then I will swirl the brass and pins around with my hand to get the rest of the soap out. Then pour as much of the water out as possible.
4. I fill half of a RCBS media separator with water and pour the brass and pins into the basket, give it a couple of turns to separate the pins. Then take the basket out and put it in the empty half of the media separator.
5. Pour the brass onto a towel and fold the towel over the brass and roll the brass back and forth with my hands. ( this gets just about all the water off of the outside of the case.)
6. Place the brass neck down on a baby bottle drying rack like this, and let dry.
http://www.amazon.com/Boon-Grass-Countertop-Drying-Green/dp/B0032G9E0G/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1427499358&sr=8-3&keywords=baby+bottle+drying+rack

May seem like a bunch of steps but it goes pretty quickly and my brass looks better than it did when it was new. The drying rack with hold about 200-300 cases depending on size of case.

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gilcarleton said:

I have a couple of questions about this subject. Do you clean the brass first with walnut shells? I have also been nervous about using any liquid to clean my brass. How to you dry it after cleaning and make sure it is truly dry before you start reloading? Thanks for the help.


Thanks Joe. I took Bayou's and your advice and ordered a tumbler from Midway. I was just about to order a new vibrating one but after reading this post, changed my mind.
Gil,
1 tablespoon of Dawn dish washing detergent and 1/4 teaspoon Lemi shine. I didn't use it anymore so I sold my corncob tumbler.

I was hesitant to use water also, but eventually came to the conclusion that it was the only way to get the brass clean. After you do it once you'll be hooked.

Do what Bayou says about the spin/dry method, but I also I dry my brass by putting on my (not the wife's) cookie tray and putting in the oven for 30 minutes on a 150 degree/low. By the way, 3 hours tumbling is way too long, 1 hour does the job. 3 hours will give your brass peening. That is when the cases smash into each other and form a slight ridge at the case mouth. That affect bullet release and accuracy.


Kindest regards,

Joe

Gil,
I'm glad to help. I know you will be very pleased with the results of the pins and FART (Frankfort Arsenal Rotary Tumbler) ;D

Joe
 
Xhuntress said:
Just from my own experience: If you use too much LemiShine you can end up with a pink cast to your cases, especially if they are not rinsed really well. If you are using a FART, do not use hot water or you will have a struggle keeping it from leaking. Must have something to do with the plastic tub. No problems with cold water. I only use about a teaspoon of Dawn and a tiny dash of LemiShine. More pins helps to keep the cases from peening each other. Again, just my experience. My brass is shiny inside and out.
I use Hot water all the time in mine with no problems at all. There may be some manufacturing variances in the molding process that would keep your sealing surface from sealing.
 
I see there are two kinds of LEMISHIME available. ORIGINAL and CONCENTRATED. what is the difference to the process. Anyone use both?
 
Pres100 said:
Xhuntress
Just from my own experience: If you use too much LemiShine you can end up with a pink cast to your cases, especially if they are not rinsed really well. If you are using a FART, do not use hot water or you will have a struggle keeping it from leaking. Must have something to do with the plastic tub. No problems with cold water. I only use about a teaspoon of Dawn and a tiny dash of LemiShine. More pins helps to keep the cases from peening each other. Again, just my experience. My brass is shiny inside and out.

I use Hot water all the time in mine with no problems at all. There may be some manufacturing variances in the molding process that would keep your sealing surface from sealing.

Xhuntress,
Like Pres100, I also use only hot water and I've had no issues whatsoever. IMO it maybe that as a woman, you may have small hands and not as strong as most guys, therefore it is difficult for you to tighten the lids properly. There is nothing wrong with the FART.

Kindest regards,

Joe
 
Is this the lemishine product everyone is using?
 

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Cases turning pink is from "Oxy-Clean" in detergent. Detergents without "Oxy-Clean" won't discolor cases regardless of amount of lemi-shine used. Use soap and lemi-shine to polish bullets and remove swage lube.
 
I just followed the instructions and never had a problem. Biggest thing is washing the pins every couple of loads by running an empty load with simple green (as instructed). I've been using Method dish soap, mostly because I stole a bottle from my wife. It uses sodium lauryl Sulfate as the primary ingredient.

For drying I have a cheap food dehydrator on an analog outlet timer. 135 degrees and come back in ~2 hours. Don't bother towel drying, occasionally I'll get bad spots when the pins are really dirty.

Recently I switched to using a bullets.com ultrasonic cleaner. I shoot mostly precision loads inside 300 yards and am looking for smallest groups possible. I still need to do more testing but it seems like the brass needs more work after STM thumbing. Chamfer to remove peening and inside neck cleanup/lube. I've had better luck leaving the necks a little dirty on 20 minute ultrasonic wash.
 

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