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I thought it was posted that Reloader powders weren't available

alintx said:
What red dirt said! When the primer shortage was a year old, a buddy got me cci 43s for AR-15. Their cost was forty bucks a thou. Most places were getting ninety plus. I had PLENTY of federal and cci match primers, just didn't want to burn em up shooting pigs from a heli. They are RAPING US! Stop buying everything that hits the shelves and the price will go back down!
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I dont see how this would work. We all shoot and need product. There is demand. If we all stop shooting and wait for prices to drop, when they do drop, we all buy it up at the reduced prices and exhaust the supply…now theres a shortage. Again. Which always drives price back up. Supply and demand.
 
Orr89rocz said:
I dont see how this would work. We all shoot and need product. There is demand. If we all stop shooting and wait for prices to drop, when they do drop, we all buy it up at the reduced prices and exhaust the supply…now theres a shortage. Again. Which always drives price back up. Supply and demand.
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If we only buy the company's powder that doesnt seem to be gouging, it will send a message to the greedy folks.
 
alintx said:
What red dirt said! When the primer shortage was a year old, a buddy got me cci 43s for AR-15. Their cost was forty bucks a thou. Most places were getting ninety plus. I had PLENTY of federal and cci match primers, just didn't want to burn em up shooting pigs from a heli. They are RAPING US! Stop buying everything that hits the shelves and the price will go back down!
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Sad part is, when we leave it on the shelf someone will come along buy it and put it online for more, most likely a gunbroker reseller.
 
Praying trump gets elected and prices crash. I read VV makes their own nitro cellulose, and that is the main problem. Hopefully VV continues to be available.

I also seen something that the powder manufacturers only want to do big runs, so less popular powders may disappear forever.
 
Sure there probably will be some RL powders around on store shelves for a while yet, likely they will fill existing orders, but, not take new ones for them. Whatever they are or are not doing when, wasn't clearly spelled out as far as I've seen. It'll progress much the same as it did with the Enduron powders from IMR/Hodgdon I would expect, sure there is still some of it in stores, although it was near two yrs ago Hodgdon posted them as NLA.
 
Anyone dumb enough to pay bigger prices only makes a seller grin more. Dumb costs us all more money.

The more a seller profits, the bigger the sellers grin gets, and you keep feeding them isn`t helping at all.

Gun powder isn`t gasoline. Smarter people are sitting this out.
 
I guess I'm in the "dumb enough" category, I've spent thousands of dollars building my benchrest rifles, another 8-10K on quality glass, travel expenses to a match etc. so as much as I hate paying double for powder and primers it definitely is not going to stop me from buying components that keep me competing, nobody is making you spend your hard earned dollars, that decision is yours, you could take up archery or hatchet throwing......Life's too short to drink cheap beer.
 
quest450 said:
I guess I'm in the "dumb enough" category, I've spent thousands of dollars building my benchrest rifles, another 8-10K on quality glass, travel expenses to a match etc. so as much as I hate paying double for powder and primers it definitely is not going to stop me from buying components that keep me competing, nobody is making you spend your hard earned dollars, that decision is yours, you could take up archery or hatchet throwing......Life's too short to drink cheap beer.
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Different discipline, but same attitude
 
Alex Wheeler said:
As much as we would like it, prices are not going to ever go back to what they were.
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They won't even fall significantly unless supply and demand become better matched. The former appears to be slowly increasing for primers as new entrants start manufacture, but powder manufacturing is a different kettle of fish with long lead times for building new plant, even existing plant expansion, huge regulatory barriers and public opposition, coupled to huge financial risks to anybody trying to open a new factory given the lack of certainty over future demand. Unless governments resume their pre 1970s role of treating this activity as being of national strategic importance and support core manufacturers, there will be no supply side improvement until the supply-demand gap has become so large that future sales are near guaranteed.
 
quest450 said:
I guess I'm in the "dumb enough" category, I've spent thousands of dollars building my benchrest rifles, another 8-10K on quality glass, travel expenses to a match etc. so as much as I hate paying double for powder and primers it definitely is not going to stop me from buying components that keep me competing, nobody is making you spend your hard earned dollars, that decision is yours, you could take up archery or hatchet throwing......Life's too short to drink cheap beer.
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Not everyone out there that has guns, does what you do. You are the minority, you`ll have zero impact on buying powder an primers out there. So in your situation, buy what you need, its your money. The bigger problem, is EVERYBODY who reloads, are usually buying more than they need, due to fear. The majority are hobbyists.

And then there are those SOB`s on gunbroken selling/gouging that DON`T even reload, selling/gouging everything they can get their grubbie stubs onto. Yeah yeahhhh, i know, capitalism, right? There`s a big difference between what is actually going on, and why.

Well this story should rattle the hardest nut sacks pretty loudly....
I was in our local gun shop couple weeks ago..., a guy walks in, ask`s if they have any powder, clerk said yes, which powder would you like, the guy answers back, "i just want a couple case`s each of whatever you have". Even an idiot could figure out what was going on there. When someone walks in, doesn`t care what powder (or primers) you have in stock, yet wants to buy everything in case`s without caring what it is, or for.... DUH! That`s a problem, for the rest of us in the reloading community....Yes, No ???
 
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These threads make me wanna puke!… in case you cry babies haven’t noticed
“EVERYTHING “ is high!… even if inflation goes down prices will never go back down!… it might drop a little but it will never go back to where it was!… and if it by chance did our $40 per hour wages would drop so we would still be in the same situation we’re in now!… so if we go by many theories of the posts on this thread you would be ignorant not to boycott gasoline and diesel,… stay home don’t go anywhere!…. That will show these price gougers!….. and let’s stop eating!… food is ridiculous!… that will show Albertsons me mean business!….. electricity is also ridiculous let’s not cave in to those bastards!… have them turn your power off!… etc….etc…. etc!..
I’m going to clean the vomit outta my mouth caused by these types of threads and drive into my lgs and pick up my new Bruin I bought off this forum, then I’m gonna pay an exorbitant price for some new 10mm ammo, some AA#9 some pistol primers and be totally to blame for these price gougers and smile every time I squeeze the trigger!….
Wayne
 
RED DIRT said:
Gunbroken AND the manufacturers can stop this BS with gouging, but they won`t, because those greedy basterds are makin bank off from it!
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Hand over fist, the prices that Alliant powders and others are being advertised at on gunbroker are Fn stupid in the nicest way I can describe it.
Two that stands out is RL19 1lb for $109.99 with $45 for shipping and RL22 1lb for $145 plus $25 shipping plus the tax.
 
Rube Shooter said:
Hand over fist, the prices that Alliant powders and others are being advertised at on gunbroker are Fn stupid in the nicest way I can describe it.
Two that stands out is RL19 1lb for $109.99 with $45 for shipping and RL22 1lb for $145 plus $25 shipping plus the tax.
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YUPPPP!!!!! Thats exactly what i`m talking about right there! Gumbroken needs to step the F up and go after these extremely unreasonable price gougers.
 
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