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I think we need some "defining" definitions.

So I keep reading people asking for recommendations for rifle/scope/ammo to "shoot steel at 1,000 yards".

My question is exactly what defines "shooting steel"?

Ok, I know that the target is MADE of steel.

But are we talking square or rectangular plate?
Circular plate?
What size?

24"X24"?
30"X36"?

If circular, is it equivalent to 1MOA?
.5 MOA?

I have access to circular steel plate. Ranging from 2" diameter to 11" diameter.

While I believe some here could hit the 2" diameter, I don't think most of us would regularly use it for their 1,000 yard target.
Maybe you can come up with a definition and see if it sticks?
 
See my response post #19 to post #17.

I would just add, the allure to play Rambo or GI Joe seems strong among a lot of new shooters. Not being of this persuasion, I can only surmise that it's the thrill of sending large volume of rounds down range that is the allure rather than hitting a "ringer" because I am not sure they can even hear a "ringer" given the volume of rounds being sent.

I must confess, in my perfect world, there would be a separate range for steel targets or muzzle brakes.
Oh actually I wasn't referring to those folks, they are in a class of their own. I was referring to the ones that as we're on a cold and near the targets they are complaining about their groups, or more correctly the lack there of.
 
I see where you're coming from, but from what I see, 6" at a hundred and 10" at 200 is beyond the capabilities of probably half the hunters who buy a license. -- and yeah, from the bench.

It would be nice if maybe when those guys miss the 10 inch plate at 200 yds with a rest, they'd get a clue and learn to sight in their rifle and shoot it. jd
Our range has a 100 yard berm for paper targets. You have to be zeroed before you start any kind discipline. There are no wind flags down range. No 4'X4' paper at 1K to help. I shoot BR rifles out to a mile. It is fun to go with my son and just bang steel once in awhile. Hitting that 5"X 5" steel plate at 1K 3 out of 5 times is very rewarding.
 
The act of shooting steel is not a precision activity. I think it was designed that way, so you could have fun. Your question seems to be heading to some precise dimensions of steel to be shot at specific distances. RULES! I think it is not defined on purpose. Guys could shoot the 24 inch gong at Manatee and tell their friends "I hit the steel at 1000yds and never missed!"
 
The act of shooting steel is not a precision activity. I think it was designed that way, so you could have fun. Your question seems to be heading to some precise dimensions of steel to be shot at specific distances. RULES! I think it is not defined on purpose. Guys could shoot the 24 inch gong at Manatee and tell their friends "I hit the steel at 1000yds and never missed!"
the VBR contests Held at Ridgway Pa. and now another form of
it At Kinski, also In Pa, "WILL" test you. Ridgway alone runs about
"130" shooters at the monthly shoots. It's shot from the bench under
a strict time limit. Some of the best BR shooters come from all over
for a shot at the title.....In the 14 years, I've known about it, nobody
has beat it......Lot's of eye candy on them bench's.....Quite a few of the
boy's on this site shoot there. They now run a rim fire version of it
not for the feint of heart.
 
I'm more of the frame of mind to ask if a person wants to "hit" a 12 or 18" pc of steel at a given distance, or hit it in the center, or kill something out there and not have to chase it.
 

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